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 03-28-2001, 20:41 Post: 26032
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I'm having problems getting my 4200 4X4 into gear sometimes. It has the SyncShift tranny. I have a hill of about 20 degrees and when I stop on it while going down I almost can't get it into reverse. I think I may have bent the lever and have broken the plastic around it trying to get it into reverse on the hill. It seems to have a problem on the hill when I stop and try to go into 1st also, but if I roll a little it will go in easier. When on flat ground it is sometime hard to get into any gear. I'm not sure if it's a clutch problem or tranny problem. Has anyone else had this problem??? My dealer says he's contacted JD and they tell him it is oil loggin around the clutch because of all the oil being at the front of the gearcase while on the hill. It seems to me that the clutch may not be disengaging fully?? Any advice would be appreciated.






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 03-29-2001, 04:55 Post: 26039
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Trade it in on a Kubota.






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 03-29-2001, 07:32 Post: 26045
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Hi Matt, To the best of my memory that system is only has syncro rings in foward gears not reverse. which means you should shift easy up shift or down shift but you may have to fiddle with it to get it in reverse. It does sound like you have a problem posibly with your clutch not releasing. I'm not buying what your dealer is saying ,I think you might want to call John Deere direct and tell them whats happening.
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 03-29-2001, 15:33 Post: 26068
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 SyncShift Tranny Problems

Matt the 4100 Deere uses a dry clutch, It sounds like your trans might be winding up. Does it do it in two or four wheel or both? How does it shift on the level?






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 03-29-2001, 16:57 Post: 26076
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My 4200 uses a wet clutch. I have to use four wheel drive because I need the braking going down the steep hill. On level ground it will go in much easier, but still is sometimes harder to get into gear than I think it should be.






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 03-29-2001, 17:02 Post: 26077
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I'm not sure on the syncro's in reverse. It seems like it does have them in reverse, because it never grinds any gears and goes into reverse normally with no problem even if I'm moving forward a little. From some of the problems I've read about here on the CTB board, I am wondering if I don't have a problem with the clutch. The tractor isn't even a year old yet with less than 70hrs on it. Does anyone know the number for JD direct off hand???






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 03-29-2001, 21:21 Post: 26091
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Before you call JD, it might be worth your time to try the same move on the hill in 2wd as well as 4wd. What you are describing sounds a lot like a normal 4wd "wind up".






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 03-30-2001, 11:58 Post: 26105
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Matt, the JD Customer Care Center number is 1-800-537-8233. Good Luck.






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 03-30-2001, 12:14 Post: 26106
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Matt
Some of the facts you point out seem to be conflicting. You stop on the 20 degree (36%!) slope to put the tractor into reverse? You need the tractor in 4wd to get the braking power? What kind of operation are you doing on this steep slope? Mowing? Loader work? grading? logging? Rogers thought that the 4wd windup is the problem seems to make sense. But how often would one be stopping on a 20 degree slope, and for what? Just curious. On the surface, it does not sound like a tractor problem, but then I am not there.






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 03-30-2001, 15:50 Post: 26112
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Well, I'm not sure what you mean by conflicting??? I have this hill to overcome to get to the riverbottom behind my house which I want to clean up and mow and such. The soil was very loose and unlevel. I had a guy give me a bunch of dirt (mostly clay), so I was trying to move it down the hill and dump it and back up the hill. Well evey time I stopped to back up is when I had the problem getting into reverse. I would have gone down and turned around or went down backwards, but there is a spring coming out of the hill that makes it very soft which is what I covered up with the new dirt. Does this make any sense??? It's kind of hard to describe. I've got the dirt moved, but would like to put gravel on top of it for a good base, which I will use the loader for again. I absolutely cannot go down front wards with a bucket of dirt and expect the rear wheels only to do the braking and keep my speed held back. The tractor did very well at moving the dirt, but just had a problem getting into reverse. I'm going to try going frontwards and see if it does the same thing. My dealer told me to drain the oil to the bottom of the sight glass, I may try that also. It shouldn't be a problem after I get the gravel on though since I won't be stopping on the hill anymore. I'm not sure what you guys mean by 4wd windup either? If it's what I think you mean by the front and back ends being in sort of a bind, I don't see why that would effect the shifting of gears?






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