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 08-18-2000, 02:39 Post: 18937
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My wife and I recently bought 26 acres - about half hilly field, half thick trees - outside of Portland, OR, and I need a tractor. This message board has been invaluable so far (once I picked myself up off the floor after the sticker shock)! Here are a few questions I would appreciate help with (remember, I'm new to this so some may seem very basic): What is a single or dual service control valve? Why would I want one or the other? I have narrowed my search to either a JD 4600 or NH45D, would both be adequate for mowing, moving rock/gravel, and other common chores for this acreage? I gather from the posts that buying a tractor is somewhat like a car, i.e., I should haggle with the dealer and be prepared to walk away. True or not? I've read the axle concerns and loader concerns regarding the JD with a lot of concern being a beginner, how do I know if the JD I buy has a new axle or not? (Other than by asking the dealer.) Are there similar concerns with NH, but they just aren't as well known due to the fact that JDs are so much more common? Thanks to any who respond!






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 08-18-2000, 08:55 Post: 18947
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Hi Dan,

I have the TC35D which is the same as the 45 but has a smaller engine (35 hsp instead of 45). It might not matter to you, but according to my manual the TC45 cannot have a mid PTO. That means no mid mower, no front mounted snowblower. The TC35 and 40 can have mid PTOs. Since I don't own one, I won't comment on JD 4x00 reliability. I'll leave it to others and the messages on this board. I believe that duel selective control valves are used for loader controls. A loader has two motions: boom movement and bucket movement so you need two valves to control it.

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 08-18-2000, 14:03 Post: 18960
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Both will be good tractors. Shop dealers and make sure that you find a good one. You will most likely need service at some point and saving a couple hundred dollars on the purchase is not worth the stress when you need service.

As far as size, I have a 4100 with 5 acres. I would be comfortable with it on 10 acres. These small tractors can do soooo much! I would expect that your choices would be plenty.

DSCV: They can either be loader outlets, or sometime they can be rear outlets. JD calls DSCV for the loader, then offers, I think, a third, fourth, and fifth which are rear outlets. These would be for implements that have hydraulic cylinders on them, like a back blade with hydraulic blade adjustment. These can always be added at anytime. I think the dealer just adds them on the tractor before delivery anyway. If your pretty sure about a loader get the valves for it with the tractor. If you are unsure about rear outlets, wait.

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 08-18-2000, 19:06 Post: 18962
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Dan, I have a JD 4700, same as the 46 but more hp. With 26 acres you will be glad you got this size compact over a smaller one. I have 37 acres at one resd. and a couple acres at two other resd's. I mostly use the tractor on the larger acreage. I had a JD 755 20hp before so now I understand the need for MORE HP. To answer your questions, DSCV means Dual Selective Control Valves and as the other respondence stated you will need them for a loader and others called (POWER BEYOND) if you have a backhoe or other equipment that needs hydrolic control. I have the #48 backhoe and many other attachments some of which need the POWER BEYOND. There is a lot to buying a new tractor. You will need info. about tractors & attachments as much as you will need info. about price. If you would like more help with this, e-mail me by clicking on my name (dsg) and I will help you with what I can. David






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 00-00-0000, 00:00 Post: 18972
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Keep in mind that it doesn't have to be a compact tractor. Twenty six acres is enough to consider that JD also makes the 5000 series tractors - which are about the same size as the 4600, the same or sometimes even less money, and are much more sturdy built. It sort of depends on whether you are going to use the tractor to do mowing or not....or maybe I should say that it depends on what kind of mowing you will do. If it is field mowing with a bush hog I'd lean toward the 5000 series. If it is finish mowing you want to do then the 4000 series is probably the choice.
And you might want to look at the Kubotas. People who have them seem to be pleased with their tractors.






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