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 01-28-2000, 00:00 Post: 12309
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 JD 4300 vs Cub Cadet 7305

I'm a novice to these boards, but I've been reading this one for a month of so. After reading alot and test drives of Kubota, NH, JD and Cub, I'm down to deciding between the JD 4300HST (32 hp) and the Cub Cadet 7305 (HST 30 hp). I would outfit both with a 72" midmount mower and a loader with a 60" bucket. I'm struggling with which is the best combination. Read every thing here and elsewhere and test drove both.The JD 4300 has cruise, separate HST pedals and opposing brakes to the HST controls. I'd upgrade to a 430 loader with HD bucket which would give me a much greater lift capacity then the Cub. Also the JD appear to hold their value better than the Cub. The JD quick attach set-up also appears better in terms of ease of use. On the other hand, the JD has a composite fender body, access to the filters are covered and is a thousand dollars more than the Cub even after I try to compare apples to apples using a 420 loader and giving some dollars toward the 2 HP. Yanmar engine is reliable and I've got a good dealer fairly close. Size and weight is also close to the Cub.The Cub is just as heavy as the JD but has metal fenders and appears to be a bit stronger in the body. Doesn't have some of the JD ergonomics, but the Cub appears to be built to last. Access to maintenance items is easier and tire size is comparable to the JD. Doesn't have a full walk through platform and uses a treadle design for the HST. Cub Loader (which I understand is made by Woods) is a quick take off but only can lift or bucket tilt separately, not simulaneously like the JD. I also have a great dealer near to me.Exclusive of the loader capacity, can anybody help me with the difference in price to value? I've saved for this tractor forever, and I'll keep it forever. I want to make the best decision. I'm not influenced by color, just quality.






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 01-29-2000, 00:00 Post: 12315
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Jim I own a 4400 with 72in belly mower and 420 loader, I could not compare the two because I no nothing about the Cub but I would check the resale vaule, the deere will more than likely be more, as far as lift on my loader I've had the bucket full of, dirt, stone and concrete and never had any problem moving any of this material. The 72in belly mower cuts my lawn as well as any riding mower would. Of course to me service and parts are the biggest factor in buying any kind of machine, my dealer is always willing to do any thing he can for me, great service, keeps me coming back. I hope this help you some in your quest for your tractor.






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 01-29-2000, 00:00 Post: 12320
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Thanks for your input. Why did you go with the 4400 vs. the 4300? Tractors are identical except for the 3 hp. Also do you get a scalping problem with a 72" mower in rougher terrain?






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 01-29-2000, 00:00 Post: 12328
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It looks like you have to choose between two excellent tractors, Jim. Not a bad situation to be in at all. I haven't owned either of these tractors, so take what I say with a grain of salt. But I have owned a number of other tractors and have driven both of these, so I'll mention some of the things which are important to me.
First of all is the ease of getting on/off the tractor. If you are like most of us you will be jumping on and off of it much more than you think when you are working. Second is how does it ride over bumps and rough ground? A bouncy tractor is tiresome. Tires, tire pressure, and implements can change the ride a lot, too. As for the 420/430 loader, my specs show the 430 can lift about 63 lbs more than the 420....a difference so small as to be no difference at all. The 420 does dump about 5" farther forward. This is probably where the difference in lift ability arises and I'd find the reach fractionally more useful than the extra 60 pounds. On the subject of loaders, I can't imagine that the Cub Cadet won't raise the bucket and tilt it at the same time. Loaders have been able to do this for 50 years. If you are only looking at the difference between the single joystick and the dual lever types of loader valves, then you should be aware that they are one and the same valve - just ifferent levers. The single joystick won't do anything that the dual levers cannot accomplish. It just takes a little (very little) practice. Most valves can accept either lever system. I currently have one of each and am leaning toward the dual lever type. As for the quick detachable feature I rarely use this. More important than anything else about the loader is how visibility. How well can you see what the bucket is doing when it is all the say down and you are sitting in the seat?? No tractor is good at this. Some are better than others. I cannot imagine wanting a walk-thru operator's platform, but I'd sure like to have better steps and more space for quickly getting on/off of the tractor.
Other things that I think are important are a front PTO, extra independent hydraulic outlets, telescoping lift arms, damped suspension on the seat, and an independent power steering pump. As for the fenders, one of mine has fenders strong enough to stand on and I do this a lot when trimming trees and working on the side of the house or barn. Another one does not; so I stand on the tire.






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 01-30-2000, 00:00 Post: 12349
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Jim I haven't had any problem with scaping, my lawn does have some bumps in it. I all so order the mower with the mulching kit, no clumps of grass to rake. As for the reason I ordered the 4400 vs 4300 was I wanted MFWD, the 4400 come this way, the 4300 has to be order with it, not much different in price. I all so figured the extra HP couldn't hurt, the more the merry.






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 01-31-2000, 00:00 Post: 12407
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Terry - One thing that you mentioned is, in my opinion, significant, and thats the peddle arrangement of the HST. I have a JD 755 w/ the side by side peddelss and have test driven a Kubota with the treddle (sp). Believe me, if your doing a lot of back and forth loader work, it's much less tiring to swing your foot a couple of inchs back and forth than it is to lift your foot, move it back... You get my point. Just my opinion. Keep in mind I only have 20 hours on my tractor and have no other experienc.






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 02-01-2000, 00:00 Post: 12416
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Jim I did own A JD 445 with the same peddle arangement as your tractor. The only problem I had is when going to reverse is I would mash the peddle to quick spin the tires, not that big of a ploblem with a small tractor, only about 850lbs. This would be a lot different on my 4400 witch is about 3000lbs and a lot more powerfull. Having to move my foot back a forth makes me almost bring the tractor to complete stop, no lawn damage. Also when using any atachment on the 3 point and having to go in reverse it was tiresome on the back of my leg on the 445 , not so with the two side by side peddles. I have used many tractors over the years mostly shift and I belive hyd is the best IMHO.






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 02-01-2000, 00:00 Post: 12425
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There is a new way to rate loaders in the industry thaks to deere, at the loader pins don't forget to check that. The loader valve on a cub cadet loader is supposed to lift and tilt at the same time. Problem with a deere loader if you back fill to much they are pulling out of front frame.






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 02-01-2000, 00:00 Post: 12427
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Jim,
I'd be willing to bet JD uses composite fenders for durability and longevity reasons, not cost savings. Different industry, but our company is in the process of converting existing sheetmetal components to plastic. Other than the obvious hurdles this creates, the costs associated with molded plastics are actually quite a bit higher. Everyone things plastic is dirt cheap because its used in everything. Problem is, we forget that a plastic soda mold probably makes about 500 million bottles a year..or more, and does so very..very quickly. Doubtful JD is planning to sell that many tractors in the next few years. Plastic doesn't rust, and can accept minor bumps and scrapes without dents and dings...Of which usually turns to rust on metal. The weight differential is minimal, and hardly applies in this case. I'll take a plastic hood/fender any day over sheetmetal. Next, Assuming the 4300 is like my 4100, the side and front covers (around the engine) easily come off the JD unit in about 15-30 seconds, without tools. Thus Completely exposing the "entire" engine bay of the unit. And lastly, Like it or not..Green paint has the advantage in resale.
Like most things I post, this is OMO.






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 02-05-2000, 00:00 Post: 12543
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After reading the above threads, I took another test drive of both the Cub and JD. I'm still hung up on the Cub have a steel hood, side panels, platform and fenders compared to the JD composite. Could those of you who own the 4000 series comment on the durability and wear of this new composite. I know the JD has a tubular frame under the platform, but I have to imagine that I'll step up to the platform, catch my boot and rip the edge off the composite. Any insight would be appreciated. Thanks.






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