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TO WOMEN EVERYWHERE FROM A MAN WHO'S HAD ENOUGH<br>
><br>
>1. Learn to work the toilet seat. If it's up,<br>
> put it down. We need it<br>
> up, you need it down. You don't hear us bitching<br>
> about you leaving it down.<br>
><br>
>2. If you won't dress like the Victoria's<br>
> Secret girls, don't expect us<br>
> to act like soap opera guys.<br>
><br>
>3. If you think you're fat, you probably are.<br>
> Don't ask us. We refuse to answer.<br>
><br>
>4. Don't cut your hair. Ever. Long hair is<br>
> always more attractive than short<br>
> hair. One of the big reasons guys fear getting<br>
> married is that married women<br>
> always cut their hair, and by then you're stuck<br>
> with her.<br>
><br>
>5. Birthdays, Valentines, and Anniversaries are<br>
> not quests to see if we can find the perfect present<br>
><br>
> yet again!<br>
><br>
>6. If you ask a question you don't want an<br>
> answer to, expect an answer you<br>
> don't want to hear.<br>
><br>
>7. Sometimes, we're not thinking about you.<br>
> Live with it. Don't ask us what<br>
> we're thinking about unless you are prepared to<br>
> discuss such topics as<br>
> navel lint, the shotgun formation, or monster trucks.<br>
><br>
>8. Sunday = Sports. It's like the full moon or<br>
> the changing of the tides.<br>
> Let it be.<br>
><br>
>9. Shopping is not a sport, and no, we're never<br>
> going to think of it that way.<br>
><br>
>10. When we have to go somewhere, absolutely<br>
> anything you wear is fine.<br>
> Really. You have enough clothes. You have too<br>
> many shoes.<br>
><br>
>11. Crying is blackmail.<br>
><br>
>12. Ask for what you want. Let's be clear on<br>
> this one: Subtle hints don't work. Strong hints<br>
> don't work. Really obvious hints don't work. Just say<br>
> whatever the hell it is you want!<br>
><br>
>13. We don't know what day it is. We never will. Mark<br>
><br>
> anniversaries on the calendar.<br>
><br>
>14. Peeing standing up is more difficult. We're<br>
> bound to miss sometimes.<br>
><br>
>15. Most guys own three pairs of shoes. What makes you<br>
><br>
> think we'd be any good at choosing which pair, out of<br>
><br>
> thirty, would look good with your dress?<br>
><br>
>16. Yes, and No are perfectly acceptable answers to<br>
> almost every question<br>
><br>
>17. Come to us with a problem only if you want help<br>
> solving it. That's what we do<br>
><br>
>18. Sympathy is what your girlfriends are for.<br>
><br>
>19. A headache that lasts for 17 months is a problem.<br>
><br>
> See a doctor.<br>
><br>
>20. Foreign films are best left to foreigners.<br>
><br>
>21. Check your oil.<br>
><br>
>22. It is neither in your best interest nor ours to<br>
> take the quiz together.<br>
> No, it doesn't matter which quiz.<br>
><br>
>23. Anything we said 6 months ago is inadmissible in<br>
> an argument. All comments become null and void after<br>
> 7 days.<br>
><br>
>24. If something we said can be interpreted two ways,<br>
> and one of the ways makes you sad or angry, we meant<br>
> the other one.<br>
><br>
>25. Let us ogle. We're going to look anyway; it's<br>
> genetic.<br>
><br>
>26. You can either tell us to do something OR tell us<br>
> how to do something but not both.<br>
><br>
>27. Whenever possible, please say whatever you have to<br>
><br>
> say during commercials.<br>
><br>
>28. The most ANY man can see is only 16 colors.<br>
> Peach is a fruit, not a color.<br>
><br>
>29. If it itches, it will be scratched.<br>
><br>
>30. Beer is as exciting for us as handbags are for<br>
>you.<br>
><br>
>31. If we ask what's wrong and you say "nothing," we<br>
> will act like nothing's wrong. We know you're lying,<br>
> but it's just not worth the hassle.<br>

From a Man who just can t take it anymore
Just For Fun Off Topic
Replies 4 Post by wbowhunt

Not really a PHD comment, but when I started looking at a CUT an Old Friend ( who is a lifetime cattle farmer ) told me that "until you buy a tractor, you will never know all things you will use it for." I thought Oh, yeah, lawn, horse manure, grading, general tractor stuff....
Oh how much more I have done...... Although I am not certain if it is the tractor making it easier or me finding things to use the tractor for....

post hole digger for 790
John Deere Tractors
Replies 8 Post by wbowhunt

You asked... so here is my two cents..
All three are decent tractors and will be able to do to the tasks and you mentioned that all the dealers get good reviews. From that it really comes down to two things that I can see. 1. being creature comforts......

MY TC33 has a seat then when sliding back also raises up and for me being 6'+ that is a nice feature. The seat also allows a swivel and lock feature 10 or 20 degrees either way, which is nice when doing brush hog or plow work.
It was these little things that put me over the top to go with the NH. I knew I was going to have this tractor for a very very long time and was willing to pay a little extra now for those creature comforts in the long run.

2. Price.... pending on your budget and attachments that are required ( and some nice to haves ) the prices vary between these tractors and you may be able to get one for less and then either save it or use the saving to buy other attachments.

3. If all the dealers get good reviews, have you met them all? stop in and talk to some.
I went to the one JD dealer that a friend recommended and I was not at all pleased with the dealer. when I talked with my friend he told me that it was not the same person he has dealt with ( Turned out to be the owners son I talked too and he didn't really care about much.

That being said , It is my two cents and I am sure you will probably get some other good advice from folks here to help you along.

Good Luck and let us know what you decide

Kubota vs NH vs Massey
Kubota Tractors
Replies 5 Post by wbowhunt

I probably would have been out there longer doing some of the neighbors drives, had I not had to work from 7am till 4pn. by the time I got home, almost everyone in the area had already done there drive.
I can just hope for tonight, but then again I have to work tomorrow morning too.
Ya know having to work to pay the bills is really just becoming a major inconvenience. I need to win the lottry or something......;-)

Almost disappointed
New Holland Tractors
Replies 6 Post by wbowhunt

I know this is kind of a stupid comment, but.... No one ever accused me of being the sharpest pencil in the box.

Did you look at your owners manual? My TC 33 has two open slots on the right fender and in the owners manual it discussed the option for both.

Missing Control Lever
Kubota Tractors
Replies 6 Post by wbowhunt

Thanks Harvey, I do alot of Hay work now on my old neighbors farm and we work on the barter system, I help him mow, rake and stack in the mow, and he lets me bowhunt and get my hay at either the free or extremely reduced rate ( pending how much I help out ). But he just bought an new NH round baler last summer and mde over 900 round bales on first cut alone. I don't have enough land ( Yet! ) to invest big time, but my new neighbor ( Who is a Dentist and bought 108 Acres, but doesn't farm ) may allow me to do some sort of lease. If I could find some good priced used equipment I would be set. I have done some local auctions and sales, but as I said, most of the stuff around here seems to be for the big rigs and any of the old stuff just seems to be left out in fields. There is a place down the road from that has alot of Sheep ( Please no WV Jokes ) and in the middle of his pastures are 4 old JD's scattered around along with some other old equipment. I have thought about stopping as asking what he would want for them. But... Well you know time and money..... They have been there for years, so I guess I can wait a little longer.

have you baled hay with a nhtc29
New Holland Tractors
Replies 10 Post by wbowhunt

Mine reason would be cause I already bought blue;-0..
Actually I have second guessed myself already on not having spent much time looking at the chinese tractors. But Then I usually think that when I am getting ready to make the next payment on my new blue.( only 22 more to go ) But when I'm on the blue I don't ever think about it.
I just never gave alot of thought, being I am not the most mechanically inclined. That being said I never thought about being able to take it to a Major dealer for work either.
Oh Well, Hind site..... I have already recommended to a friend not to over look them. For his very limited use I think it would be a good fit.

Anyone Know Who Makes These
Other Tractor Brands
Replies 18 Post by wbowhunt

Well, When does it get delivered? I am sure you will be happy with your decision and will not believe all the things you will end up using it for. Good Luck and Enjoy

bx23 vs b7510 vs b7800- machine will do the job
Kubota Tractors
Replies 25 Post by wbowhunt

Congrats, I only have a few hours on my TC 33HST so far ( Been to DARN Cold!!! to do anything outside ) but I can tell you how much it has already helped out. I didn't think of some of the things I would use it for that I already have. It is a nice litte Machine... Again Congratulations

TC33D Price
New Holland Tractors
Replies 4 Post by wbowhunt

I think that this thread is good point to re-enforce the importance of your dealer when you go to buy a tractor. If you don't get along with your dealer, who are you going to go to for support? The COmpany? If the Company tells you to go back to the dealer, then what? Saving a little money going out of state to get a better deal, can end up costing you in the long run. I am not saying not to shop around and get a better deal, Just to keep in mind that when it comes down to the bottom line and you liked you local dealer, but his price was a couple hundred more because you had to pay tax or just because they had to ask more to pay their bills. This is something to remember.

poor customer support
Kubota Tractors
Replies 21 Post by wbowhunt

It is also a good time to seed the lawn, believe it or not. The seeds get down in there and then when the soil thaws you have good ground contact for germination.

mini spreader update
Parts and Repair
Replies 5 Post by wbowhunt

I have to agree with kwschumm. I recently purchased a TC 33 HST. I Looked at all the colors and decided I liked the NH best. Then I went to the NH dealers in the area. Two of them both out of state but within a 30 minute drive. I talked with them, asked questions. One dealer was not at all helpful and would not yet offer a test drive on the tractors until I did the pre approved financing. The other was great. I then looked at Corriher and got a price qoute from them. Went back to the better dealer and with out even talking about the price I got from corriher, he beat it with out the tax, when I added in tax he was over by a couple hundred. I talked with some folks ( Thanks KubotaGuy and many others ) about their fellings on the dealer and decided to stay local even though the end was a couple hundred more.

best buy for nh tcc tractors
New Holland Tractors
Replies 21 Post by wbowhunt

TC 33 hst w/ FEL and 60"MMM

Only problem so far was that MMM was mounted when deliverd and they did not keep the Mid PTO cover. I called and asked for one, As I just wanted to keep dirt out of the grooves when running in the muddy pasture. Dealer said No prob and There was a new cover on my door step 2 days later, No charge. ( Sometimes it is just the little things that make me happy )
Dealer Satisfaction: Very satisfied..
Would I buy this tractor again.... Although it is probably more then I need. ... YES I would do it again

Comments: Very happy with the cold weather performance so far. I little sluggish until things warm up, ( aren't we all ) put then runs like a champ.

New Tractor Survey
Everything and Anything
Replies 54 Post by wbowhunt

That would be great . I will E-mail you. I haven't take on a project quite as big as the one I am looking at this summer. So anything would be greatly helpful. Thanks

Concrete step molds
Home Improvement
Replies 16 Post by wbowhunt

I checked out the Web for my local Tractor Supply Center and they had the 911 for 8.95 I included the link and you just enter your area Zip Code for that area price.

Diesel Conditioner Required
John Deere Tractors
Replies 11 Post by wbowhunt

Is anyone currently using Bio-Diesel in thier CUT? DO you notice any difference in performance? More hours per tank? Less smoke at startup? Cold weather usage?
I am very interested and am reading what I can find, the problem is just like anything else, I am getting the sales pitch side or the competitors side. I would like an actual users side of the story.
I am having a hard time locating a dealer in my area. I have checked and the closest is about an hours away. Being that Bio does not appear to have a long shelf life I don't know that it would be worth it.
Cost wise, Does it run about the same as Regular Diesel?

Biodiesel
Parts and Repair
Replies 6 Post by wbowhunt

I have used an ole M for quite a while and it was a good general tractor for doing hay, But I curled up in a chair with 33 Manual Last night, boy are these CUTS alot different. I mean just some of the adjustment options on the seat and 3 Point. What I wouldn't have done years ago hooking up attachments. Or should I say, What words I wouldn't have said ( the four letter variety ) As I got better the words got fewer. But with the options today. Boy I have alot to learn again.

Agracat Tractor
Jinma Farmpro Agracat Nortrac
Replies 40 Post by wbowhunt

Maybe I missed it, But did you ever find or get the tractor back?

Stolen Tractor
Just For Fun Off Topic
Replies 28 Post by wbowhunt

Riddle me this, I noticed in my Tractor hunting Journey's 2 things ( Well actually alot more, But for this thread just 2 )
1. When I went to look at a Kubota or NH or even a Gray, the dealers always carried more then one line of new tractors, But when I stopped at a JD dealer. You had JD and JD Only ( New ) . Is it that the profit margin on JD is so much Higher? Or just that the dealers sell so many more that they can offer just the JD Brand?

2. I know I probably will not get a straight answer to this, but here goes..... Do Dealers who sell kubota get some kind of bonus for sales? Or a bigger profit margin for sales?

The reason I ask is any dealer I went to that carried Kubota, regardless of the other lines they also carried, all pushed hard for me get a kubota ( Mainly the 7800 for my needs)and when I inquired about a similar CUT from say NH or Kioti they just didn't seem to want to talk about it, or if they did it was like a kid opening his christmas present thinking it was a new video game and came to find out Mom got him a pack of Underwear.
You would think a sale is a sale, and that if the dealer is trying to sell you the best most reliable tractor ( in their opinion ) and you opt for the other, The dealer is still going to make money on warranty and repairs later down the line.
Thoughts?

JD quality vs Kubota quality
John Deere Tractors
Replies 48 Post by wbowhunt

www.jimstractors.com

I don't know if this will help you. Did you check the Classified Board. That is where I found this link.

Hope it helps

tractor-southern calif
Yanmar Tractors
Replies 2 Post by wbowhunt