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You did not say how new your Kioti was.....

I have seen with the 2 new CK30s I bought that the hydraulic
fluid that comes with the tractor is on the low side and of
unknown brand. Furthermore, one of the machines experienced
a significant leak past one of the loader cyl seals when
the fluid got very hot. I suspect the original fluid is a
cheaper fluid that loses viscosity rapidly with higher temp.
I suggest replacing all the hyd fluid with a good tractor-hydraulic synthetic like Chevron THF 1000.

Kioti DK35 Steering Problem
Kioti Tractors
Replies 19 Post by dfkrug

My feeling is that you are probably OK with a 7 1/2-ft
hoe (in the 1000 lb range) on a CAT 2 3-pt with a tractor
of 7000 lb and up. That said, subframes are still much
better since they couple tighter to the tractor.

As for digging stumps, no hoe in this class can power
through large roots. You still have to dig around them
and do some cutting. I think that digging out stumps is
one of the toughest duties for a b/h as you use max digging
force that often suddenly breaks loose.

Category II 3PT backhoe subframe needed
Loaders Back Hoes
Replies 6 Post by dfkrug

If you are looking at the CK20, check out the larger
CK25/30 with the KL130 loader. In the $15K+ range and as good as the Kubs.

ck20 will it load a 1ton dually
Kioti Tractors
Replies 8 Post by dfkrug

I have had several JD 955s. I have bought several operator's manuals (tractor and loader separtely) on Ebay and one I & T aftermarket repair manual for this series. The I & T manual is only fair and I got it from Overstock.com. The Technical Manual TM1360 from JD is expensive but comes up on Ebay often.

New JD 755 owner needs manual advise
John Deere Tractors
Replies 4 Post by dfkrug

Oops, I did not mean that I have had any bad experience with the large Prairie Dog, the 10.5 footer. I have NO experience with it. The 10.5 is comparable to the Woods Groundbreaker 1050, not the much lighter GB9000.

praire dog backhoe
Loaders Back Hoes
Replies 10 Post by dfkrug

VERY interesting. I looked at the Hardy site and indeed there IS is a telescoping hoe for compact tractors. I did not come across these Canadian hoes when I did my research on compact hoes, before buying (and selling) the Prairie Dog Diggers.

Two things are not clear from the web site: prices and if the units are sold direct or thru distributors. Anyone know? I would certainly like to hear of anyone's experience with the Hardy deluxe hoes.

Compact tractor Extenda hoe
Loaders Back Hoes
Replies 10 Post by dfkrug

Even the M4900 should use some form of subframe for a backhoe.

The draw bar connection you saw is probably one of the
methods used to keep a 3-pt mounted hoe from rising when
you have an up force exerted by the hoe.

You are right that some subframes interfere with the
3-pt hitch. So much for "quick-attach"....

subframe vs 3 point
Loaders Back Hoes
Replies 29 Post by dfkrug

No snow in my area, so no plow steel. But I have
ordered plow steel (unbeveled) for a backhoe bucket
before (shipped from the midwest).

A 1/2" x 4" beveled piece of plow steel
is about 6 lb/foot, or about 30 lb for a 60" piece.
This is "hot rolled medium carbon" C-1055 steel.
It shouldn't cost over $100 (you would think).

Unfortunately my steel supplier (PDM) can't get it.

Loader bucket weld-on cutting edge
Loaders Back Hoes
Replies 7 Post by dfkrug

Since DK35 has a gear trans, it prob has no oil cooler.
Besides the possibility of a valve stuck (on relief) as
DK35VINCE mentions, also check:

Low hydro fluid (have a leak?)
dragging brakes (parking brake on?)
pinched hydraulic pressure line

hot tranny
Kioti Tractors
Replies 8 Post by dfkrug

Steel prices.......

I just went to one of my steel suppliers, SIMS/Metal. They cost more than PDM, but I do not have to buy full sized pieces. A36 bar stock was about $0.62/lb. It was about $0.38 at PDM about a year ago. Cold-rolled was over buck, however.

made up my mind
Loaders Back Hoes
Replies 9 Post by dfkrug

You got that right, AV8R!

I recently picked up my new trailer (made to my specs, 6x12 with steel deck, 2 axle, sides, brakes, etc) and they did not put ANY paint underneath! Just raw steel, exposed to the elements. BTW, this unit cost $1750 out the door, with license, tax, etc. The paint on top was just crappy, but at least there was paint!

Big Tex Trailers
Pickup Trucks and Trailers
Replies 6 Post by dfkrug

I see how much my loaders have twisted when I lift heavy things (800+ lb) with hooks on the sides. I now only lift with centrally-mounted grabber hooks welded the center of the BACK of the loader or fork. The best setup, IMHO, is the chunk of 1/2" steel with MULTIPLE 3/8" slots cut into it for a choice of positions, again welded to the back center of the loader, not the top. Easier to weld on, too, as AC5Z0 says.

I also have the chain grabber mentioned by ScooterMagee. I use it to hoist engines and such.....very easy to reposition. It could work well on a loader, too.

Hooks on bucket
Loaders Back Hoes
Replies 21 Post by dfkrug

DK35Vince:

I have seen your posts since you bought your DK, and I will say this: you have been a great salesman for Kioti. I have only had Japanese so far (Kubs and JDs), but the Korean quality has been looking better and better. Telling everyone about your good experience has been influential.

The Ferrari in my profile is a car I have owned for 13 years that I used to drive. It now takes up valuable workshop space. It has a new twin turbo engine and I will put it up for sale this spring for the mid thirties. I may try Ebay.

kioti CK30 of Massey 1428V
Kioti Tractors
Replies 9 Post by dfkrug

Nice mirrors!

How much do they vibrate?

I have been wanting to do something like that for years.
(All CUTs need a mirror, horn, and high-mounted lights. Now
when do we put 'em on?)

Tractor Mirrors
Tractor Projects
Replies 6 Post by dfkrug

I don't know what that dealer pays for shipping, but I agree with BigTractor...he does not seem to be making anything. Here in CA they can be thousands more.

BTW, I recommend getting the factory remote option when you buy...it is only about $250 more.....

best price on kioti ck30w loader
Kioti Tractors
Replies 10 Post by dfkrug

In evaluating the quality of the various 7.5 foot backhoe attachments out there, I looked at the size/thickness of the boom, dipper, pivots, the size of the cylinders/rods, but mostly I looked at the weight. Most of these units run about 850 lb with a 12-inch bucket. The Prairie Dog is just under 1100#. This does not include subframes, which I believe are necessary for CUTs, but perhaps not necessary for larger tractors. One of my Dogs is mounted on a CASE 480 with a very hefty 3-pt that includes power down.

I have used a Woods subframe to mount a Prairie Dog and I am disappointed that it puts the hoe very far out the rear of the tracter....an 1100# outrigger, which certainly affects the driveablility of a 3500# tractor. It also used a bracket that blocked off the 3-pt lower attachments even when the hoe and subframe was removed.

Woods sells their subframes for $400-1000, depending on the tractor. I prefer custom, which are not hard to build.

Backhoe decision help
Loaders Back Hoes
Replies 32 Post by dfkrug

"Round uneven steps"?

If your valves are hitting the pistons, they will leave round marks. For this to happen, your engine had to break a valve spring, get over-revved or suffer major damage to the timing gears. I have rebuilt 3 JD 955 motors and they are robust. There are 2 sizes of oversize pistons available if you need boring.

If your engine was over-revved and the valves floated against the piston(s), then your valve(s) is(are) bent, even if it is not visible to the naked eye.

john deere 855 engine problem
Parts and Repair
Replies 13 Post by dfkrug

I have had several JD955s, an excellent machine, with the exception of the front grill. It is 33hp gross, and it is probably the lightest tractor with that much hp. It is less than 2000# naked and has a frame. At 1 1/2 liter, like the Mahindra 3015 turbo-diesel, it should make less power. I almost never use high range, so power is not important with my applications (loader and backhoe).

Mahindra tractors
Other Tractor Brands
Replies 7 Post by dfkrug

Saw one at the World AG Expo last month. It actually costs MORE than the new L3400HST.

Anyone Bought a B3030
Kubota Tractors
Replies 5 Post by dfkrug

Steel vs. rubber hydraulic lines.....

One area where I prefer the rubber is that it does not need to be supported at the quick-disconnect end. I am talking about adding remotes to the factory hydraulic block connection. You would not leave steel lines free (unsupported) at the quick-disconnect. They are supported on a bracket somewhere, which can get in the way of backhoe hose routing and backhoe seat location.

BTW, the CUTs I have seen and worked on have oil coolers if equipped with HST, but otherwise have not had coolers. If I had my way, they all would have oil coolers.

Metal vs Rubber hydraulic lines
Kubota Tractors
Replies 11 Post by dfkrug