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Nice job, Rich! Resourceful and inexpensive, and no welding involved! Now you have to spend another $5 for rustoleum primer and paint to really make it look sharp with that TC18.

counterweight for tc21d
New Holland Tractors
Replies 7 Post by JeffM

Dennis, I'm a couple hours away from my tractor right now, but yeah, that sounds like the same setup. Your explanation is more clear to me now, but without my tractor in front of me, I can't exactly replicate it in my mind. I couldn't tell if the casting that broke is on the belly mower deck or on the tractor itself. Must be on the tractor, right? I'm sure when I go look at my tractor it will be clear to me. Thanks for the detailed explanation and the heads-up.

JD belly mower problems
Tractor Projects
Replies 8 Post by JeffM

FarmerWannabe, I think the scarifiers on a small box blade (4 foot) would probably work better for you in this pasture than a landscape rake. Other possibilities are a subsoiler or a pasture renovator. These last two are made by Monroe Tufline, as well as other manufacturers I'm sure. See link below.

What does a box blade do
Operating and Attachments
Replies 10 Post by JeffM

Welcome to the board, James. I also have a 4400HST, but no 4n1 bucket. I have the JD heavy-duty 61" bucket with an ATI removable toothbar on it. I also had grab hooks welded on top of the bucket on both sides and a slip hook welded to the middle of the bucket. Turns out this whole combination is great for my uses, but there are definitely times that a grapple hook or 4n1 bucket would be nice. This spring I sprung for a Brush-Brute to uproot small trees (1-4" diameter) and that seems to work pretty well so far also. Which brand 4n1 bucket did you buy? I assume you got it welded up with quick-tach brackets for the 430 loader. And do you use the optional 3rd SCV for the jaw cylinder, or a different arrangement?

4 n 1 bucket
Loaders Back Hoes
Replies 3 Post by JeffM

Don't forget Woods.

Need Advice on Implements
Operating and Attachments
Replies 4 Post by JeffM

David, I would probably get a 72" rake for a 2910, but I'm sure it could handle a 84" also.

price check for York rake
Garden and Landscape
Replies 15 Post by JeffM

Stephen, that price sounds more like a 4400HST with 430 loader and R4s, not a 790. I'd try a different dealer for sure.

JD790 w Loader
John Deere Tractors
Replies 13 Post by JeffM

Big Eddy, you've obviously got way too much time on your hands! Or too much Guiness in your hands! Great song. You are very creative, and you brought a smile to me face this foin afternoon.

The Orange and the Green
Tractor Projects
Replies 3 Post by JeffM

Lars, real ballpark pricing on NEW B21 TLB is $23-25K, NEW L35 TLB is $33-35K. Used B20 and B21 TLBs are out there, but hold their value real well. A demo B21 with low hours will go for $19K, and a B20 can easily be $10-15K depending on how hard and long it has been used. Commercial rental yards love these machines, so they are a possibility for used machines. Expect about $30K for a demo L35 with low hours.

B21 price
Kubota Tractors
Replies 2 Post by JeffM

Kevin, congratulations on your new toy! Sounds like you negotiated a great price. The 790 is marketed to be the low-price member of the John Deere compact cast. A bare-bones 790 is much less expensive than a 4100, but is only 2WD, manual steering, single-stage clutch with tranny-driven PTO, and no mid PTO. When I compared a 790 equipped with 4WD, power steering, 2-stage clutch, and mid-PTO to a similar 4100 gear tractor the prices were virtually identical. The 4100 gear has a 8F/4R tranny over the 790 with a 8F/2R, but big deal. There may be other small differences in features that I didn't cover also. Are the creature-comforts that much better on the 4100? Your call.

I did it
John Deere Tractors
Replies 2 Post by JeffM

Aldo, kay described it correctly, but sometimes it is hard to pull back straight on the PTO shaft. When mine is hard to remove, it is usually because I can't get the right angle to pull back on. Try rotating the shaft a little also, that might help. The locking collar kay described is at the very end of the PTO shaft and is not obvious if you haven't encountered this type of arrangement before.

54 quot mower deck removal
John Deere Tractors
Replies 3 Post by JeffM

TomG, after many hours of practice I can finally get a flat trench bottom with a hoe or excavator, but I'll be dipped if I can effectively explain in words how I simultaneously use the boom, dipperstick, and bucket to accomplish this. Kind of like explaining in words how to swing a golf club - and after many hours of practice I still can't do that well at all. Think I'll stick to backhoes and loaders. :>)

Trench Bottoms
Loaders Back Hoes
Replies 16 Post by JeffM

Lars, like Art said, really not enough information to give you a great opinion, but from what you said I think that a Kubota B21 or L35 might be perfect as long as you are not excavating basements. A B21 can get into tight places, has great capabilities for a small package, and can be towed behind your truck. I love skid-steers, but only on relatively level ground.

Compact backhoe or Full size backhoe
Loaders Back Hoes
Replies 13 Post by JeffM

Keith, don't know where you are at regarding the backhoe decision these days, but here is a relevent situation that happened to me yesterday. I went behind our new house with the loader and landscape ("york") rake on the tractor to start finish grading the back yard area. This area hadn't been touched since last fall when the septic system and water line went in. There had been a lot of settling (1-2 feet) in the rock-embedded medium-clay soil where the water line trench was and some around the concrete septic tank also. (I should explain for our Southern friends that the frost in our area can get real deep, so we put our water line from the well in at 6 foot depth, as I'm sure our Canadian and New England friends on this board can appreciate.) Now, you can call it paranoia or anal retention or whatever, but I got nervous about the settling around the septic tank, so I took a shovel (aka: very small manual backhoe) and dug down 2 feet to the exit pipe from the septic tank. I was greeted with the pipe at a 30 degree angle headed toward China and effluent (aka: nasty water) leaking out around the tank seal. Called my uncle who had seen the system go in and he comes over (on Memorial day no less) to help assess the situation. Bottom line: about a six foot section of pipe including a 45 degree elbow had settled over 6 inches pulling the top of the pipe out of the tank seal in the process. My uncle says, "I've got 90 minutes before dinner, how fast can you get that backhoe on your tractor?" Result: an hour later we were sipping cocktails, having dropped the rake, put the hoe on the tractor, carefully excavated about 8 feet of septic line, lifted the pipe back where it belonged, put crushed stone and clean sand under and around the pipe and backfilled the 2 foot deep trench. Luckily the pipe had gradually bent, not broken. I was awful glad I had the backhoe, and my uncle, to get that job out of the way fast.

Backhoe Capabilities
Loaders Back Hoes
Replies 11 Post by JeffM

Brad, just had the pedal update applied to my 4400 two weeks ago. I love it. I had experienced the same hip and leg fatigue that you described when doing loader work and on the reverse pedal all the time. The new pedals are cast metal and the angle of the reverse pedal makes it much easier to use. No fatigue now. Dealer did it as a warranty update because I complained that the old one was bothering my hip.

hydro pedals on 4200
John Deere Tractors
Replies 11 Post by JeffM

Lots of good ideas out there, Dana, but after reading your more detailed plan, I would look for a used TLB like Don M said, but in a smaller size. A used Kubota B20 or B21, or a L35 if you could afford it, would be just about perfect. And they will hold their value. They are sized like compacts, but are built to take the punishment of loader and backhoe work much better. Just think, you could rig up some kind of sling or grapple for the backhoe and just place those Keystone blocks!

best tractor investment for a 1 year project
Cub Cadet
Replies 12 Post by JeffM

Kevin, first off, 160 hours on a compact tractor is hardly broken in, so that is good. You didn't say if the 4100 is gear or hydrostatic transmission, but $12,500-13,500 would be my expected price on a new gear 4100 with 410 loader, and $15,000-16,000 if it was a hydrostatic. Add $150-250 for turf or R4 tires also. So if the unit has been maintained well and not beat up, I think that $10K is a fair price for a practically new gear 4100 as far as hours go, and it's a steal if it is a hydro. You'll still have to get a mower for your needs. Personally, my opinion on the Chinese tractors is you get what you pay for, maybe less in this case. Search on this board under keywords like chinese, nortrac, allied, etc. and you will get more information. Good luck.

JD 4100 price check
John Deere Tractors
Replies 6 Post by JeffM

Frank, I'm with Paul and Norm on this. I had operated TLBs and mini-excavators before, but still took some time to get used to the boom swing on my JD 48 backhoe. Key things: throttle back (I set my throttle at around 1200 RPM when using the backhoe) and ease the controls for the boom rather than just sending them like you would for the loader. Seems like it takes longer, but slow and easy is probably more efficient on these units. I still lose the "touch" occasionally, then I have to stop and slow down to get it back.

Backhoe Controls
Kubota Tractors
Replies 7 Post by JeffM

Harvey, I have just the BFH for the job. (I worked on a dairy farm as a kid - seems like the first thing I learned is what a BFH is) I'll let you guys know how this turns out. Hopefully get to work on it this holiday weekend.

Field mower help
Mowers Field and Finish
Replies 12 Post by JeffM

Denny, that price on the SQ480 sounds real high at $974. I would have expected $750, maybe $800 max.

bush hog brush hog rotary mower
Mowers Field and Finish
Replies 12 Post by JeffM