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does anyone know if John Deere makes a detachable toothbar for the heavy duty 60" bucket on a 420FEL??

tooth bar
John Deere Tractors
Replies 3 Post by Andy

Well, I've read all the stuff I can find about them, but I still can't decide whether PTO chippers are worth a hoot. Looking specifically at a Patu DC40 or Valby CH140. I've never seen either, and I sure would like to see one work before I plunk down the cash. I realize hydraulic feed is better, but one has to make compromises. I burn anything 2" or better that is straight enough to get in the stove, so I don't need to chip a 4" oak log or anything. Do these things work ? Do they beat the tractor up ? I've got 27 PTO HP. Any opinions greatly appreciated. (I'm also tired of buying mulch at $12/scoop.)

PTO woodchippers again
Operating and Attachments
Replies 43 Post by Robert

I built a rops for my tractor that I use exclusively in the woods. I have not put a seat belt on it yet and may not. I have found that the way in which I use the tractor, mostly for hauling logs and building roads, I am often standing up. I tried to make myself sit down while doing this work but I felt that it actually was much more difficult and maybe dangerous because the main reason I was standing was for visibility, front, back and to the sides. The second reason is that I rarely take the tractor out of lowest low when I am doing work. The few times that I have encountered unstability the tractor was moving very slow and becoming unstable quite slowly. I do worry about sliding sideways inadvertantly and I do plan on putting in a seat belt...but for myself...I have decided that I will not wear it in all situations. I do think that wearing a seat belt with a ROPS is highly advised in most Agricultural situations and every time you are trying to do work on slopes of any kind.

seat belt or not
Tractor Projects
Replies 12 Post by Kim Hartshorn

Hi Brian,
the 790 is still for sale. had several buyers. must have gotten lost on the way to the bank.
Jim

JD 790 for sale
John Deere Tractors
Replies 5 Post by Jim

Cutter,
My TC29D dash also foggs up. It only seemed to be a problem when I hit it with a direct stream of water from the hose. I now avoid the dash & things are better.

Dash fogging
New Holland Tractors
Replies 6 Post by Rick Seymour

I have an impression that Cat 0 is not a general standard like Cat 1 and higher. Generally, Cat 1 and higher implements will work on any tractor with the same category hitch, but that may not be true for Cat 0. I believe that some Cat 0 implements are made by L&G tractor manufacturers and are intended to be mounted only on their tractors.

Needed source for Cat 0 3pt hitch implements
John Deere Tractors
Replies 10 Post by TomG

Thanks for the advice. Rick, your comments on the seal design has me interested in looking at an exploded diagram. Sounds like a fun job. I'll take your advice and look into a Woods seal and shim kit.

Seals and Shear Pins
Mowers Field and Finish
Replies 5 Post by Roger L.

After several months of looking & researching from China to India to here, I think I'm going with a TC33D w/7308 (60" h.d.) loader. It came down to this model, the TC29D or the Kubota B2910. I could not say that one was better than another, but the best price & financing are the determining factors. I got the TC33D price down to $17500 total which is far from where I started. How does that sound to ya'll? Is this unit to big to mow 3 acres in a year or two? Initially, I have to clear the 3 acres with this tractor. Any opionions on blades or/vs box blades or implements useful in moving or toting down trees?

TC33D
New Holland Tractors
Replies 1 Post by John Shade

Farm Equipment Guide Specs.

FORD 1710 FWD = 2,560 lbs @ 26HP-E * 23.8HP-PTO
FORD 1920 FWD = 3,089 lbs @ 33.3HP-E * 28.5HP-PTO
FORD 2120 FWD = 3,858 lbs @ 42.6HP-E * 34.5HP-PTO
JD 1070 FWD = 3,265 lbs @ 38.5HP-E * 35HP-PTO
YAN 155D FWD = 1,146 lbs @ 15HP-E * N/L-PTO

Just some information I thought might help.

Joe Stein

abilities of very small compacts
Operating and Attachments
Replies 18 Post by Joe Stein

Update to the 4400 Owner's Journal! I haven't gotten much seat time in the past three weeks because of travel conflicts and bad weather in the NorthEast, but I finally go to spend some time with the loader this past weekend. The job was to "pick" some boulders/large rocks from the side of a recently reconstructed dirt road and bring them back to my lot for use in a future retaining wall. These rocks were all in the 200-600 pound range by my estimate (meaning I couldn't budge a single one of them alone by hand, but thought that 2 men would have been able to wrestle the smaller guys, but not lift them). Turns out that this is one of those jobs that the tooth bar is made for. I was able to get the teeth under the rocks, even on flat ground, and then "tickle" them into the bucket without a lot of trouble. This is real frustrating to try without a tooth bar because you just end up pushing the rock around for the most part. The 430 loader worked really well for this job, but I was glad I had the 48 backhoe mounted for rear ballast. I can't imagine tackling those size rocks without serious weight in the rear. The front turf tires did flatten out some under the heavier loads - more than I wanted to see. I'll check the pressure next time to verify that I'm up at the max. The hydrostatic drive has worked real well on this tractor with a good amount of pedal pressure/feedback. I did use the cruise control on long stretches of road to alleviate leg fatigue. I was climbing a pretty steep grade on the dirt road and couldn't do it in "C" range or road gear. On the other hand, I wouldn't have been able to do it on a gear tractor in high gear either. I have to remember that I had a loader and a backhoe sitting on tractor at the time also. Overall grade on tractor/loader for big rock picking: A.

JD4400 owners journal
John Deere Tractors
Replies 26 Post by JeffM

Roger,

The 2" of up/down movement is at the tip of the blade. The other blade has slightly less up/down movement. What is normal play? The gearbox shaft (and stump-jumper) have no play and rotate very smoothly by hand (without the dirveshaft attached). It's been raining for a week now so I havn't had a chance to check the driveshaft alignment. I will verify, as Murf stated above, "The two sets of inner 'eyes' on the u-joints should be inline with each other."

I checked the driveshaft manual again and it said nothing about the shaft alignment. It shows how to maintain, replace parts and repair, but no alignment.

Thanks!!

rotary cutter vibration
Mowers Field and Finish
Replies 7 Post by dbernardi

Jim,
I am currently using a 914A mid-mount 60" deck under my TC29D. I can't say enough about the tractor, but I'll leave that for another time. I looked over the market for fabricated decks. NH is one of the few mid-mount fabricated decks available. Fabricated decks have always offered to me what I need in a deck: fixability, ease of repair, a deck that can tame rough areas and keep on ticking! I've had three 60" fabricated decks. The first two were by Bolens and did a great job in holding up and allowing me to fix them as required. I never bragged about the cut of the Bolens product, but the lawn always looked good. I mow 5 acres that began 20 years ago as corn stalks and thistles. Over the years the Bolens decks tamed my barn yard to a nice looking lawn. As the years passed, I made moves up the HP ladder. Now a proud owner of a TC29D, I stuck with a 60" deck primarily because of storage space. I can't say enough about the performance of this deck! I have become rather particular of how the lawn looks around the house, and this deck performs beyond my expectations. It handled the long grass (12-14") this spring with ease (HP counts), and worked well in wet areas, although I don't have any water laying in puddles or pools. I did remove the "Ralph Nader Bolt" from the discharge deflector to allow the deck to take those dip hits that seem to appear from time to time. I also considered the rear discharge deck, but not having any experience in that area, I stuck with what I felt comfortable with since the layout of cash is significant. I highly recomend the NH 914A 60"! A great performer for me!

Quality of cut
New Holland Tractors
Replies 6 Post by BoomerBoy

There is also a JD 990 also available now, I saw two at a dealer around Easter. Haven't seen the specs, but its guite a bit larger than the 790, around 4500-4600 size physically. If I recall correctly, it had a high, medium, low along with a 4 speed transmission. Other than that looked liked a 790 on steriods.

Halsey Green

Model order for JD compacts
John Deere Tractors
Replies 12 Post by Halsey Green

Ditto Steve, When I saw the price differ. in a new vs 4 year old I went for new with warranty, with all MY hours and all MY use. I couldn't live w/o the 4wd on my B2710 for loader work. Good luck.

JD 850 4WD vs 1050 2WD
John Deere Tractors
Replies 6 Post by KlayW in MI

My question for the day. After looking at a JD1070 today w/ 240hrs I decided to purchase it. The asking price w/ a 440 loader off another tractor he has is $16,000.. He has a 460 loader in another state that he will part with for an additional $500. ,but he really wants me to take the 440. The 460 has a much bigger capacity (Maybe too big?)than the 440 which was used on rental machines and therefore is not cosmeticly that nice, although solid. THE BIG QUESTION. DOES ANYONE KNOW FOR SURE IF THE 660 WILL FIT A 1070. Theoretically, if the 460 fits the new 990 (which is a 1070) then it should fit my machine. I would appreciate any solid info on this. Thanks

JD 460 loader on a JD1070
John Deere Tractors
Replies 1 Post by Eric Edwards

I don't have the mower on my 4400 yet, but plan to buy it next spring after I get the lawn in. My 4400 is a month old with 430 loader, 48 backhoe, and all the little goodies. I haven't had much use yet due to my travel schedule and poor weather, but so far it has been great. I'll add an update post to the 4400 owner's journal thread that I started. Which tires are you looking at with that mower deck, turf or R4? My guess is that you would be just fine with either, but the turfs may give you more clearance.

John Deere 4400 hst 4x4
John Deere Tractors
Replies 7 Post by JeffM

I have received a manual for a 5020-5030 Allis. I found out that I had too much oil in the transmission. I drained it down to the fitting you were talking about by the PTO lever. Seems ok. About your leak on the transmission shifter, I think you are talking about the rubber boot that covers the shift lever. The only thing I can thank of, is that on my boot their is a small hole like a breather hole in the boot. Maby with the excess use of lifting with a front loader, the oil is foaming and coming up into the boot. This is questional. When I first purchased my used tractor, the boot was'nt in place and it leaked, I repositioned it and haven't had a problem. Hope this helps.

E-25 Hinomoto trans-hydraulic quantity
Hinomoto
Replies 7 Post by Shelby Crawford

I finally put wheel weights on my 1250-4 Massey. All I can say is WOW. What a differance. Before, it would get light in a lot of places that I bushhog. Now I can bushhog a lot more places and the tractor is still stable. I should have had them on a long time ago. JerryG

wheel weights
Parts and Repair
Replies 2 Post by JerryGoucher

That sounds like it is working correctly. I have a JD and a Kubota. The differential only locks when it is held down and releases when you release it. Sometimes you have to wait a few seconds for it to engage but you should feel it drop easily when it does. Also, the Kubota manual specifically states you should never turn when it is locked.

Locking Rear Differential
John Deere Tractors
Replies 6 Post by droz

Halsey, sorry for the delay in getting back to you. Was very busy at work.

The tooth bar works great, it is made by a company in PA, called ATI, and I will try and get the number for you. It is a perfect fit on the 70 bucket. Just slide the bar over the cutting edge, and drill two pre-holes, followed by the larger finished holes (very easy to drill through the bucket sides with new drill bits or good sharp ones) and two bolts. Then I had to fasten the removable teeth( cost more for this type of bar, but worth it to me). Took about 15-20mins. and away I went to make a mess of my yard. LOTS OF FUN!

Cost was 400.00 all together. I have seen them for less, but would question the quality of the ones that cost 250.00! Order local, not on the net, too hard to return the product or get help if you need it. Try and find the bar I have, again it's made by ATI, in PA. Ask a local JD dealer.

As far as the quality of the bucket with the tooth bar, well it cuts real nice now. Don't expect a tooth bar to add HP to the tractor, keep in mind that this is a compact, you are not going to cut 6" of packed rock and dirt at a time. Little 2" cuts are all you can expect. But you get nice full loads each time, and with a little practice, the quality and quantity of dirt removal will improve to a level not possible with a standard cutting edge. I knew I had made a moster out of my machine when I drove forward 4-6' and had a full bucket and the machine had that front heavy feeling when I raised the bucket up. Without the tooth bar, all I ever got was the effect of compacting the ground more and some dust in the bucket with some pebbles, well maybe a little better, but you get the picture.

I also found the teeth great to take the place of a box scraper for leveling small areas. Just tip the bucket all the way down, and adjust deep of cut as needed while backing up, works great for busting up rocky soil too.

So, go get yourself a tooth bar, and have some fun with it. This little bar has basiclly eleminate most chores I was sure I would need a backhoe for. What a great tool my 790 has become!

Good LUCK!

Used 4200 or new 790 any advise is welcom
John Deere Tractors
Replies 14 Post by SteveofNJ