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 | bigbut
Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 3 Maine 
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2004-09-08 95923
I am borrowing a bushhog backhoe to dig a small trench. I do not have the optional rear valve. Where do I make the hydraulic connections (Loader valve or manifold block). Sorry for the ignorance - cant find anything on either manufacturer site.
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 | oneace
Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 1490 south central pa 
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2004-09-08 95950
You best bet is to borrow the tractor too. To get continuous flow requires some extensive plumbing on those units.
Not to mention it is probably a 3pt hoe. Very very bad to put a 3pt hoe on that tractor. ....
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| stevenc
Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 190 North Carolina
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2004-09-10 96213
this time I agree with "oneace" it isnt ment to be,,and if you decide on a back hoe attachment,,be SURE you use a sub-frame or you will end up with 2 1/2's of a tractor which is worthless ....
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| bigbut
Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 3 Maine
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2004-09-10 96214
Quick Follow Up - Not sure what all the concern is. Have heard all the warnings about 3 pt - worked fine - wouldnt sell them if they didnt. Hooked up with PTO Kit (easiest installation - only complaint I heard was cost which wasnt an issue) Dug 100' 4 foot trench and footings for an out building today. Sorry to bust your bubble. ....
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| DK35vince
Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 689 Western,Pa. 
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2004-09-12 96276
bigbut,
No one said a 3 point hoe would not work, they do work.
But the possibility of damaging the tractor or breaking the machine in half is higher.
Also if a mgf. recommends a subframe for a certain machine and you break it using a 3 point hoe they more than likely will not warranty any damage from using it. ....
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| oneace
Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 1490 south central pa
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2004-09-12 96291
That is correct. Even with the sub framed aftermarket units like woods ect. If the tractor breaks the manufacture will not cover it. BUT most times the backhoe manufacturer will. This however is not the case with 3pt units. That is a use at your own risk type of product.
Even though I highly recommend sub-framed units there are times when all you can use is a 3pt hoe. (with NH any way) You can not have a mmm and a framed hoe on the same hoe. With Kubota and I think JD make units with both. I know the BX23 come with both.
NH is slow in the R&D department. ....
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| bigbut
Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 3 Maine
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2004-09-16 96642
Latest Update - Dug a 27'x14'x48" deep pit for footings for my pool house no problem - other then trying to get better with the hoe and rocks - still waiting for tractor to break in two. ....
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| oneace
Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 1490 south central pa
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2004-09-16 96643
Why do you have to be a smart ass? If you do not want advice then do not ask for it. ....
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 | Archdean
Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 279 Oklahoma
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2004-09-16 96644
"still waiting for tractor to break in two."
What are you going to say then?? There just trying to help you , don't be so pigheaded!!
Dean
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 | funchy
Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 128 north eastern corner of Maryland
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2004-09-16 96656
My NH dealer told me none of their smaller tractors would accept a backhoe without modifications including adding frame supports (and removing MMM in the process). They're just not set up for the task.
In my opinion, over time you do run a risk of bending your tractor's frame. If it were me, I'd get the NH underframe supports added... or if it's just a one-time thing I'd just rent a regular backhoe.
Just my $0.02 ....
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