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2004-07-19          91317


OK folks, here's questions for you:

I have a New Holland 1925 with a 7308 loader. The loader is operated by a "joystick" and there are 4 hydraulic hoses (up/down and bucket tilt forward/back) connecting the hydraulic ports to the loader.

Being that I already have in excess of a dozen engines to maintain, I've been looking at 3-point mount log splitters that uses the tractor's hydraulics to operate the ram and I'm wondering if I could use the hydraulic ports for the loader to operate one of these splitters.

Would this work? Would I have to "lock" the joystick in a position for hydraulic flow?

Any help would be appreciated.

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2004-07-19          91320


It will work if you tractor has the required GPM flow and pressure. It will still work if these dont meet the requirements of the splitter it just may be a little slow on the return.

I'll heard of people bungey cording the loader lever back.

You'll just need some long hoses and connectors.

What splitter are you looking at? ....

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2004-07-19          91323


Thanks for the reply. I'd hate to buy one and the hoses and then it not be operational. If I recall correctly, my tractor's hydraulic flow rate is in the 7-8 gpm range, so I'm slightly concerned about it being slow.

So far, I've looked at 2 in Northern Tool's catalog. Also, Tractor Supply carries these in our area in the fall.

They're cheaper than those with gas engines and I'm really trying to avoid another motor to take care of. ....

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2004-07-19          91326


I hear ya! I'm in the same boat with my JD790. I have the rear hydo hook ups but I just don't want it to be weak. I will I could talk to someone who has used it on our tractors to see if its going to be a waste.

I was also figuring worst case i could get a 22 gpm pump, prince pto pumps and run it on that. ....

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2004-07-19          91328


Did a quick google search using "wood splitter screw pto" and came up with the link below. I remember a girlfriend's father 20+ years ago with something similar hooked up to the PTO of a Deutz diesel. Seemed to work like nobody's business. I wouldn't be surprised if product liability issues took them off the US market, but I haven't looked either. Seems like a viable option to hydraulic concerns. ....


Link:   PTO-mounted screw splitter

 
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2004-07-19          91329


Ditto. Looked into going the pump route too, but those things don't come cheap and you'd have to have a reservoir, filter, etc. By the time you get all that stuff, you're almost to the cost of a unit on wheels and the dreaded additional moter. I'd still consider this route to avoid another motor.

Along the lines of motor avoidance, I've also been looking into PTO driven generators. As much as our electricity service has been out over the last couple of years, a generator is slowly becoming a necessity. Especially since our water is from a well - I can live w/o A/C, heat, microwave, etc., but it sure would be nice to be able to flush the toilet and not worry about meat thawing in the freezer! ....

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2004-07-19          91330


That screw is wicked looking! ....

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2004-07-19          91334


Tom,
I have a TC33D with a 7308 FEL. The pressure at the FEL ports will relief (inside the joystick control) at about 1850 psi. Depending on what size hyd. cyl. is used on the log splitter, these ports may/may not have enough psi to do what you want.

I believe you would want to be more concerned about force (tonage of splitting power) than you would be about speed. A 4-1/2" cyl. connected to the loader ports will give you about 16 tons (+ or -) of splitting force at 1850 psi and I've seen some gas driven splitters fall in this range.

If you had rear remote hydraulics that were controlled by the main system relief at about 2200 psi it would give you about 20 tons of force and I've seen better/larger gas driven splitters in this range.

You would not want to 'bungie" the joystick in one direction unless you wanted the cyl. to extend (or retract) and stay there "dead heading." Depending on which ports you use (and I would suggest the bucket cyl. circuit instead of the lift circuit since the lift circuit has a "float" on the retract side) you would just move the joystick handle one way to extend the cyl. and split the log and move it the other direction to retract the cyl and reload. Not quite as handy as some self reversing set ups but useable none the less.

The biggest downside to using the joystick as your control for a 3PH mounted splitter would be having to load the logsplitter at the rear of your tractor and then having to go to the side of the tractor to operate the joystick. Of course you could always set the splitter on the ground beside the tractor and use it there without much hassle.
Tim

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2004-07-19          91335


Tim-

Excellent points. Thanks. The loader "float" hadn't even crossed my mind.

I think I'll look into adding the rear ports. Surely NH has an accessory kit to add this feature? I'll check with the local stealer. ....

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