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newkid
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Posts: 3 Alberta, Canada
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2010-11-07          174963


Hello everyone... i am planning to start my own business with horse boarding.... I know about that side of things but i also want to grow cut and bale my own hay. i could use some guidance on tractors and implements if anyone can help that would be great. I want to have small square bales. dont know which balers are better and what size mower and tractor to get to run both the mower and the baler. would prefer to buy just one tractor... thanks!



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hardwood
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2010-11-08          174979


Newkid,

Welcome to the board, we don't know everything but we try.

I don't know anything about horse boarding but have cut, raked,and baled hay with small square balers for probably 40 years or more, when we had cattle.

I've never run a big round or a big square so I don't know much about them.

A few questions though first.

-How many acres of hay do you plan to harvest?
-Do you have extra help when it is time to bale hay?
-Do you have a town job that would keep you away when the hay is ready to bale and it's going to rain soon?
-Do you plan to buy new or used? A full line of mower, rake, baler, wagons, etc. isn't a small investment.
-Is there a custom operator nearby that could handle it rather than you buying abd maintaining the equipment to do it yourself?


Frank. ....


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newkid
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2010-11-08          174983


hi Frank thanks for the reply... in answer to your questions we are probably going to bale about 60 acres. I dont have a town job, this is going to be the thing for me. i will probably be buying used equipment to get started i realize it isnt a small investment. and yes this is a family venture so there will be lots of help. any advice you can give would be great.... my main question right now... and i will give an example... a john deer 348 baler requires 540 pto rpm and 35 pto hp mininmum, and a john deere 635 mower requires between 90 and 150 pto hp... if i buy a tractor big enough for the mower will it work for the baler or am i gonna blow the baler up? ha ha ha thanks again for your help! ....


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hardwood
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2010-11-08          175006


Newkid;
No you won't blow the baler up. It will have slip clutches and or shear pins to protect it from overloads. The mower you mention I'm not familliar with but if the minimum horsepower is 90 it must be maybe a nine foot mower/conditioner. I wouldn't think you would have to go to the top of the horsepower range, just drop down a gear if it is heavy hay.
Hills and level land will have a bearing on how big a tractor you'll need. Our baler tracrtor was a farmall 656 row crop about 65 hp. pulling an IHC # 47 square baler. It handled the baler and a loaded wagon behind the baler easily on moderate hills.
Frank. ....


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2010-11-09          175036



If you were able to find a sickle mower it would run a nine foot cut with about the same horsepower as the disc mower you are looking at.

The difference would be when you could cut and the speed as a disc mower should cut easily over five miles an hour when a sickle will only cut about 5 or less! It is a time thing and sixty acres is not a lot too cut.

It depends on what you want! A sixty horsepower tractor and loader could do all you have or you could go bigger. It depends on your time. ....


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