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parhunter
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2009-05-10          162643


My gator suddlenly developed a problem. When I turn the key on just to the first position the starter starts turning and won't turn off.

Any idea's?

Cam

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2009-05-10          162646


It's almost gotta be the starter switch. If the starter is running that means the red wire connected to the solenoid is hot. It gets it's voltage from the switch, it's just getting it one click too early. ....

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2009-05-27          162985


Tried a new switch and that didn't do it. Did a little more trouble shooting though. Here is what I found. If the ignition switch is turned to the first position the starter will start turning. Even if the gator is in gear. So it's ignoring the safety switches. It won't actually try to start or fire until I turn the switch to the second position. I can then hear it trying to start but it wont keep running with the starter constantly turning.
Also the engine won't actually fire if it's in gear. I have to put it in neutral and turn the switch to the second position to hear it trying to fire.

Is there a relay in that system that could stick on?
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2009-05-27          162996


There is a start relay that is a single relay on the upper frame rail near the voltage regulator. It has a yellow, 2 reds, and a purple wire in it. If it is stuck, that would create a path to the starter. It isn't supposed to pull until you go to the start position and create a ground thru the neutral start switch. Sounds like your next move. ....

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2009-05-28          163024


Replaced the relay and still doing the same thing.So that relay is getting energized when the switch is moved to the first position. I don't suppose anyone has a schematic on-line for gators do they?
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2009-05-28          163027


Double click on my user name and send me an email with your fax number and I can fax you a schematic. ....

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2009-05-28          163029


As soon as the site validates my email I'll be able to PM you with the number. Thanks for the help. ....

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2009-05-29          163056


Just read the fine text on the verify of an email address. Seems like there is a two week delay. Any chance I can get you to just email the schematics to cwarren58 at gmail.com?

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2009-06-02          163124


Thanks for the help. The schematic did it. Must have been some kind of weird logic problem. Once I pulled power from the starter solenoid and manually applied power to turn the starter. It started right up. Then when I put everything back together it was fine. Not sure if it was feeding power back through the ignition module or what.

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2011-03-22          177509


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Originally Posted by gatoraider | view 163027
Double click on my user name and send me an email with your fax number and I can fax you a schematic.


Any chance you can email me a copy of a 2003 6x4 elec. schematic? My email is rtucker@iowatelecom.net

Thanks
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