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spartan
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2005-04-13          109778


Does anyone know if the TC 48 and TC 55 are a bigger chasis then the TC 35, 40 or 45...is it worth it to bump up to the TC 48?



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2005-04-13          109781


The TC 48 & 55 have the same larger frame and use a larger loader. You would be going from a 1386 lb. lift at 19.7 height to 1830 lb. I believe the 48 does not come in hydro however the 55 does. Wheelbase goes from 73.5" to 74.8". The tires get bigger, etc. That is a pretty good size tractor. You're getting into a pretty nice sized toy with lots of green. What are you planning to do with it? ....


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2005-04-13          109818


We're just planning to mow about 4 acres and use it for dirt work, probably the TC40 will work just fine, I was just going to price the bigger model... ....


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2005-04-14          109828


Some people use sub-compacts to mow 4 acres and do light loader work. It depends on how fast you want to do it or how much you want to lift. Sounds like the 40 with have plenty of power and size to do what you want with ease. ....


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2005-04-15          109896


To clarify Yooper is half right. The 48 and 55 are both gear drive and hydro drive in available yet. But the 55 is available with hydro electric shuttle shift and the 48 is not. For only 4 acres you are really pushing it with the 40 if I were you I would be looking at the 33. Are you looking for mid or rear mounted mower? I can tell you that if you are looking for mid the 40 is a real bear to get set and leveled to mow a nice looking lawn do to its size of 84" and the linkage used to support it. The 33 is relatively easy and you have many deck options, 60" and 72" side discharge and 72" rear discharge. ....


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2005-04-16          109918


I plan to use a Woods rear finish mower, 72 or 84 inches. I realize I don't need the TC48, but I really like the 35 or 40. I probably could get by on the TC33 BUT for the extra price difference of about $1800 to go to the 35, you get a lot more tractor! ....


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2005-04-16          109921


If you look at the hp to weight ratio you are not gaining any thing but a larger bucket and a few pounds of lift between the 33 and the 35. The 33 can handle a 72" rear mower with no problems. If you want to go with the bigger tractor I would strongly suggest going up to the 40.

There is a reason that the 35 is the least popular out of all the models of the TC tractor. ....


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2005-04-17          109953


Why is the TC35 the least popular? That's the one I was really looking at and have test driven. ....


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2005-04-17          109956


Due to having the lowest Hp to weight ratio and marginal torque compared to the smaller 33(which has the same engine) and the larger 40(which has a 4cyl engine). ....


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2005-04-18          109978


THANKS. So I need to either down size to the 33 or fork out the extra $1400 to go the to TC40. I'm not sure what to do! If I have a TC 40 on a tandem axle trailer do you think I can pull it with a 1/2 ton pick up truck, or should I go to a TC33 , I know the TC33 weighs less and may trailer better than the TC40. I won't be moving it a lot, but there will be times when I will load it on a trailer. ....


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2005-04-18          110023


If you have brakes on your trailer I think you will be O.K. with the TC40. I know of quite a few people that pull with there 1/2 ton truck. ....


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2005-04-19          110068


The TC 33 bare weighs 2470 and the TC 40 is 3375. I agree with oneace, for mowing, the 33 would be better. The 33 has a 60" bucket and the 40 a 72" bucket. The 33 has a rated 878 lift capacity and the 35/40 is 1386. Wheelbase of 33 is 63" and 35/40 is 73.5". The 3 point lift capacity at 24" on the 33 is 1635 and the 40 is 2330.

You should have enough hauling power with a 1/2 ton truck (with V-8 engine), but would advise having trailer brakes. ....


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2005-04-19          110069


I don't have breaks on my trailer.

Maybe I'll go with the 33, but it seems a shame it isn't much less expensive than the 40, there is only about $3800 diff. between the two!
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2005-04-19          110070


...so you think it would be easier to mow with a 72" finish mower with the 33 than the 40? ....


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2005-04-19          110072


If you are not hauling very far, nor very often and take it easy, you can get by without trailer brakes. But, be cautious and use you head!

The 33 is shorter in height, making it easier to mow underneath trees, etc. at the edge of property. The 10 1/2" shorter wheelbase gives it more agility for turns when mowing around objects. If you are grading or doing other general the maneuverability is important to some people. The 33 being lighter causes less damage to your lawn from its footprint. Are you purchasing a light, medium or heavy duty rear mounted mower?

On the plus side for the 40, a heavier tractor is nice for loader work, grading and definitely can handle the rear weight better for lifting the mower. The larger front tires are a plus on the 40, since personally, I feel that the front tire size on the 33 is a little small. (that's also true for JD's).

Are you planning on R-4's industrial tires or R-3 turf tires?

How tall is your garage door? Can you get either of them in without folding the ROPS?

So, a 35HP tractor with an "in between frame size" would be ideal! Hope I'm not confusing you with all the questions, just trying to point out pluses and minuses from what I've gone through in my decision making processes. ....


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2005-04-19          110079


I definitely will get the Industrial tires, so I can use it for loader work, winter snow removal, etc. and mowing. My garage is 8 feet tall, the dealer said with the rollbar up the TC40 tractor is 7.5 feet tall, hope that is right, but I will measure it for sure before purchase! I am looking at a medium duty WOODS 72" finish mower, and a 84 " medium duty WOODS rear blade for the tractor.

I just got a quote from TARHEL Tractor in the Carolinas it is about $1100 less than any dealer in Michigan. This includes with the freight. Has anyone every used that company? ....


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2005-04-19          110080


...I beleive the TC35 and TC40 are the same frame, just different engine and you go from 3cy to 4cy. So I would get the TC 33 DA or the TC 40 DA...I plan to stay away from the TC29 or TC35. ....


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2005-04-19          110081


I don't own either of the models being discussed but have looked at them as I am also interested in possibly getting a new tractor. Another thread is being concurrently run with a discussion of KK tillers on a 35/40 machine. I don't remember the tread width of the 35/40 but know it is wide. Another member said a 72" wide tiller couldn't cover the tracks.

(i.e. if you are mowing and need to get near an edge, will a 72" deck cover your tracks and allow you to do so? Likewise an 84" wide rear blade possibly will not cover your tracks if you have a modest tilt to the blade. I don't have specifications for tread width. The other stuff I mentioned came out of a brochure I got when looking.

If you are going the 40 direction, you need to make sure about the accessories.

I don't know anything about Tarheel but know they have been advertising on this site for years. My point is the dealership's service and support is very important to me. It is different if you are purchasing a small ticket item and can send it back for repair. What will your local dealer do if you come to him next year with warranty service issues? ....


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2005-04-19          110082


Good question, I would think any dealer would fix warrenty repairs despite where I purchased it. I actually don't have any NH dealers in my county! The closest is about 45 minutes away, which is a hastle when parts are needed.

Good points about the attachments, I assumed a 72" mower would work for the TC40, but maybe I should use the 72" on the TC33, sounds like that is all I would need for these discussions. I do have a lot of dirt work (landscaping) (we have a new house), but I think the 33 would work. We have to mow about 3-4 acres. Probably either tractor would do that with no problem.

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2005-04-19          110087


Tell your dealer that is 45 mins away the price that tarheel quoted you, and i bet they will come down some. I would suggest you talk to you local sales guy, when you buy from you local dealer you know if some thing happens they are just a phone call away.

So getting parts from 45 mins away is a hassle? but you will try to get parts from Tarheel which is how far away? and that is not a hassle.

I am not going to get into it too deep just do a search on tarheel and Corrhier to see what was discussed before.

Long after the sweetness of a cheap price you are left with bitterness of poor service. ....


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2005-04-25          110350


Thanks Oneace, you have convinced me to buy a TC40Da instead of a TC35DA....I look forward to trying it out and putting it to work. I test drove one Sat. at the dealer, very nice..the hydro is great. I hope to order one this week! ....


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2005-04-26          110378


Glad to have helped. I know you will be pleased with your tractor. ....


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2005-09-06          115989


Be aware that brakes are REQUIRED on trailers above a certain GVW.
Check me on the following, the limit is either 3000 or 3500 lbs., either way you're likely to be over it with a compact tractor and trailer strong enough to carry it. ....


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2005-09-06          115992


You are right at 3500 lbs. in most states. But if you do not get stopped by DOT you have nothing to worry about. Well that is until the trailer pushes you through that sop sign at the bottom of the hill. ....


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2005-09-06          116008


If your garage door is a standard door, you need folding rops. The 72" "anything" will cover your wheel base. You need trailer brakes no matter which tractor you buy (33 or 40) With your 1/2 ton. In My Opinion, dont even drive down the road without them. Especially if my kids are on that road! I just hauled my tc40. It took about 3 min. but after taking great pains to get the tounge wt right I pulled it and hardly knew it was there. Very impressed with the trailer and the brakes on that trailer. I had to turn the electric numbers up to 4 but after that she stopped OK. Just OK! Even with the brakes, if a deer was to run out infront of me, I was going to be introuble.
I wouldnt think twice about buying local (within your state atleast). Period! If your worried about the money you can always go gear tranny? (Of course I have nothing to compare it to and all others say differently) but I have absolutely no problems with a gear trany. Especially if your mowing a large flat area,
(I know I may get alot of flak for that comment but oh well its my opinion
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2005-09-12          116298


I had a 33D with a front loader for doing grading with box scraper, primary seeding and over seeding. Had no complaints at all. I agree with all the comments on passing on the 35. I also strongly advise trailer brakes if pulling either one with a 1/2 ton. If nothing else, they may just save the day during "panic" braking. Enjoy your new tractor :-) ....


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