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Lucerne, LOL I can't actually blame pic 7 directly on the R4s. As I was backing up the hill, and just when I thought I made it, the soil gave way under the left side causing it to roll over. Of course if the R4s had decent traction I wouldn't have been at the bottom of the hill in the first place.

You're right, slipping and sliding with R4s does more damage than R1 tracks.

New 4410 - Tire Question
John Deere Tractors
Replies 14 Post by kwschumm

Looking for sheepskin/other seat covers for the 60/40 seat design of the'93 toyota pickup. Hard to find. Anyone know a good place?

Seat covers for 93 pickup
Pickup Trucks and Trailers
Replies 1 Post by Chris B

I've been looking at tractors for a few months. My wife and I just purchased 45 wooded acres where a farm used to sit many years ago. In addition, the property was timbered about 12 years ago. So what we have are mostly wooded acres with about 7 acres of meadows in the middle, where we will build a house in a couple of years. The existing driveway, which we will use is roughly 850 feet, but it needs work. The meadows that used to be fields are very "lumpy" with breyers everywhere. The wooded section has stumps and treetops everywhere. I want a machine that can handle this work as well as last me for many, many years. <br>
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With the tractor, I want to flatten the grassy areas, brush hog the breyers, cut the driveway and then maintain it, mow the lawn, remove snow, prepare areas for deer food plots. <br>
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I believe I found that machine and I'm looking for validation from you tractor experts. The machine I'm probably going to buy is a 1999-2000 Kubota L3710HST. It has 1600 hrs on it and is in great condition. It was owned by a mennonite who never used the tires/wheels, but instead, used steel wheels with a rubber track on the outside. Needless to say, the tires and wheels look brand new. The machine, other than the loader looks like a 9 out of ten. The loader is probably a 7. <br>
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I'm getting the tractor serviced, the tires filled and delivered for 14K ( I live 1.5 hrs away.) The only attachment other than the loader is a brand new woods 60" brush bull, which is included in the price.<br>
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Am I getting a fair deal? Is this a good tractor to suit my needs? ...and don't worry, I'm going to try to get the dealer to throw in a couple of Kuboater Hats.<br>
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Your input is greatly appreciated.

L3710 first tractor purchase
Kubota Tractors
Replies 3 Post by scottdya

I use a 2-4D product every fall. My pasture rotation runs about 7 days. I wait that long before grazing after application and like to see a shower during that time also. Never had any problems with my horses. Proceed carefully I generally go a little weak with it as some rye grasses are subject to it and clovers.

Horse Pasture Question Advice
Parts and Repair
Replies 4 Post by RichM.

Often when overwhelmed the rear discharge or mulcher decks leave a small windrow behind each blade width of the deck.

Mower deck problem
John Deere Tractors
Replies 3 Post by Art White

I really perfer to use the term Assembled in the USA at best. Sorry guys!

made in USA
New Holland Tractors
Replies 7 Post by Art White

well, to answer your question, I read the advertisments on the internet about Lenar tractors. I felt that from reading there ads that the tractor would give me at least a couple of yrs of trouble free use. I did not think to ask him if he was a certified mechanic, it was him and an older gentlemant putting these tractors together. They had a nursery business and he lived on site. I felt that since this was his home, he would be there to help with any future repairs, which he was, under the dealers warranty.
At the time of purchase, I just purchased the acreage for my horse farm, I had a lot of fencing to do, some dirt to move, ect. This was why I thought I was making the right decision to buy a new machine, I am a Millwright, and a farmer with new land and a new home being built. I did not have the time for any setbacks from breakdowns from a used machine, so I bought a new one. Jim replaced the machines when they broke or had problems that would not go away, that is what I expect for my money, SERVICE, when the tractor broke in half, he gave me the option of letting him fix it, which he said would take 3-4 weeks, or accept a new machine, I really did not think that the change in a loader would make a difference since it accepted all the other attachments, so I accepted the different tractor with a different loader, but through use, I found I was wrong. I had the perception that the Lenar tractor would be serviced by any mechanic. You see the sale of a product is split into two realms. One is perception, the other is reality. When a sales company such as Lenar advertises such things as Ford backed, QC quality, WARRANTY, and such, it gives the buyer the perception that he is purchasing a quality product. Four Lenars later, the other realm sets in, the realm of reality, and that is that "You just bought into a bunch of Horse $#$%." My dealer went belly up, and to be honest with all of you, I feel that he has been taken by Lenar as well. The way I would conduct business if I were to sell Lenar Tractors, is I would sell them only if Ben agreed to stay in the store with me. And then for every Lenar tractor that I sold that came back with a manufactures defect, I would slap the $#$% right out of Ben, and fix the tractor. Sooner or later, this way of doing business would get the manufacturer to improve on quality, or get Ben to stop importing scrap steel.

some info on lenar tractors
Jinma Farmpro Agracat Nortrac
Replies 96 Post by hick11h1369

Jarndt, in that picture there are 21 shiny new 'Bota's. That is not the whole fleet, I just took a picture of those ones the day I we had to do the final inspection and pre-delivery paperwork at the dealership. I thought some of the memebrs would find it interesting to seethem all lined up like that.

Those particular ones were purchased for snow removal, sidewalks mostly, in the winter and construction work in the summer, although some of them do other things as well. We have several on contract all year long to one Municipality, we also have several which work all year at a big marina, they move & launch boats in the summer and clean snow and assist with ice fishing a stuff in the winter.

Best of luck.

1 2 and then 3
Kubota Tractors
Replies 9 Post by Murf

You'll be happy with the BX. Definately the best bang for the buck. Just make sure you stick to implements designed specifically for sub-CUTs. The B-series may give you a little more versatility with regard to implements, depending on your specific needs outside of mowing.

Needing a Tractor in Missouri
Kubota Tractors
Replies 6 Post by jarndt

Just to update everyone, I bought the 3430 HSTC tractor about a month ago, and I'm in love! I did buy the Woods RDTH72 finish mower, and it's the best move I've ever made regarding mowing.

Before deciding on the MMM or RFM, I spoke to a landscaper friend of mine who has two tractors, both with MMM's (one is a HUGE John Deere--I had no idea they made MMM's for tractors that big!). He told me of difficulty getting around obstacles with a MMM--that basically if you can't go under something you can't mow around it. This isn't as big of a problem for him since he has someone trimming right behind him, but for me I want the option to mow under low-hanging branches, etc., where possible (I have several!). Plus--this thing is sooooo easy to remove and reinstall--even out in a field on uneven ground (but some of this could be due, too, to the great 3-pt system on the Kubota).

The RFM has been incredible thus-far. I was truly afraid of the cut it would give--I imagined a so-so but fast cut, and boy was I very, very wrong. It gives the prettiest cut I've ever seen--even better than my neighbor's commercial 50-inch JD garden tractor. And it does do it SO quickly. Last Saturday my neighbor was having family in, and he couldn't mow his front field with his JD due to a heavy dew that morning. It just kept clumping and bogging the mower down. He called me, I sped over there and mowed it with no problem. We're talking 8" tall grass soaking wet with dew up and down a hill with *no* bogging down. Can ANYTHING bog this tractor down???? One thing I'll definitely say--the rear discharge is the way to go, too. The chains thatch the grass, so even the thickest, wettest grass doesn't clump as it would with a side discharge.

MMM's definitely have their place, and I can see lots of advantages to them over a RFM. But in my opinion, RFM's are much more versatile than MMM's. I can mow over my ditches and drop-offs by "hovering" the mower, I can back under small trees and bushes, I can easily remove the mower (belly mowers are much harder to remove, and it's necessary to do so if you plan on FEL work, grading on rough terain, etc), and so-on. As for looking back while mowing, I did that the first two times I mowed, but now I "know" where the mower is and never look back unless I'm backing up to get close to something, etc.

Lastly, I've not had a problem yet with the grass being "mashed" down by my tires only to stand up later--something one person posted would happen. Maybe the RFM has a good uplifting air current(?), but thus-far it hasn't happened despite mowing in very wet grass with a 4000+pound tractor (3430 HSTC Cab tractor with fluid-filled R-4 tires). Also, I've not had any "tearing" of my lawn even though I constantly leave the tractor in 4wd (but I NEVER mow when the actual soil is wet--I'm sure it'd tear the ground then).

Anyway, I wanted to post my experience on here just in case anyone is thinking of buying a RFM. I actually came close to not buying it from fear of how it would do, and that would've been a huge mistake! As a matter-of-fact, my neighbor, who owns a sub-compact 1980's Kubota (and the JD 50" garden tractor) went out and bought a RFM (60" Bush Hog) after I mowed his grass for him that morning.

Should I buy a finishing mower
Mowers Field and Finish
Replies 37 Post by jonathanengr

Ok, lets say you get the B7800 and then oopps an accident with the 60". The manual for the B2910 recommends a 48" rotary (bush hog). If one damages the tractor with a 60" your warranty is void. Don't just listen to the dealers they will tell you it can move mountains..take the info with a grain of salt. Get a manual for the tractor you are interested in and see what is recommended.

7510 and brushhog
Kubota Tractors
Replies 4 Post by petushead

Thanks again for all of the help. I think I'm going to buy the CUT with FEL and box blade, and rent the mini excavator per your advice. That saves me nearly 5 grand on the backhoe attachment that I'll likely never need again. If the excavator is that much fun, I might have the whole yard dug up by Monday. Thanks again -

clay tennis court removal
Tractor Projects
Replies 9 Post by melsfav

just bought a 8 acre horse farm - 6 acres pasture/2 acres lawn. Trying to figure out which tractor to buy. Aside from mowing and rough cutting, I will need the tractor for moving manure, feed, and other stuff, snow removal on 300 ft driveway, and post hole digging for fencing. Shouldn't need to do too much with hay since it will be delivered to the barn. I would like to stay under $15k for tractor, FEL and belly mower. I have been looking at JD 4110, 4115, 855, and 790 used and new models. Any help would be appreciated -thanks, Michael

which tractor for 8 acre horse farm
Operating and Attachments
Replies 6 Post by michael_9999

This is my second 110. The first one broke down 4 times in 12 hours. I told them thats it, come get it. They gave me a few days to calm down and offered me a better deal to take another. As you see I did, it broke in 3 hours. Been fine for the last 100 hrs.I like the power of the hoe for it's size and what the loader will lift. I have dug out and moved some large boulders,as I'm sure you know, Lucerne is made of bolders. It operates like a skid steer, very quick and agile,the front actually will slide sideways when going from forward to reverse, I've never used the brake. I also like how you can move the machine from the backhoe with the creep controll with two fingers.The down side is the dealers. All the JD dealers I have been to, know nothing about machines and sell full retail from the book, kinda like the new Harley Davidson dealers. Every time I go in for something I check their knowlege. The front diff takes hydro 20 low visc oil. So when I went in to get some I asked what do I put in my 110 front axle, he grabbed a bottle of 90 weight gear oil and said this is what it takes, are you sure?? yup, can you look it up? ok........hmmmm!!! guess I'm wrong. I have done this several times on different things. I like Union Farm Equipment, good old boys, from farm country, they know their equipment and implememts, if they don't have an answer they say let me find out. They have good equipment too, Kubota and New Holland. I bought my machine in Union at Hammond tractor, across the street, $6000. less then local dealers. Just did a job on the Hog Bay road. I lived on 182 in Franklin, last house on the left before the cemetary, my dad bought it in 1968 for $4500.and fixed it up.

Floor board treatments
Pickup Trucks and Trailers
Replies 13 Post by lucerne

Thanks again - I think I need all the stability I can get as I get used to the equipment. Grape-growing may have to be less intensive, as it will only be part of tractor use. Perhaps with a few hundred hours under my belt I'll feel more comfortable, and reduce the track, but for now....! Cheers from the very deep south - where winter has just commenced, cold and wet, but rarely any snow.

L3130HST vs JD4310Hydro HELP can t decide
Kubota Tractors
Replies 53 Post by candmgam

Thanks for that comment, and to all others who responded in this and other threads - I've made the decision for a 4410/430/4-in-one bucket - around $US28K all up - on order last week, for delivery in 4 weeks or so. Longer term view of possible need for the extra grunt at some time was a key factor in my decision. Dealer came down a little more on price, and treated me very well during the decision - including coming onsite and walking the property with me to advise re slopes etc. - great service, which I would expect to continue post-purchase.

4410 vs 4310
John Deere Tractors
Replies 6 Post by candmgam

The Italians, like the Japanese, think of what we call a CUT as a full-sized farm tractor, this is because what we would call a nice size building lot is a farm to them.

The Same, Carraro, Ferrari, Lamborghini, and a few other manufacturers make fairly decent stuff. As Art mentioned they have some very revolutionary designs. They are very popular here but usually just in ares where vineyards and the like are common.

These machines are also designed to work on terrain where most of us would never even think of going with a CUT. They do it effortlessly. The DOT here bought a few of them equipped with mower decks a few years back for cutting the grass on the more sloped sections of the highway medians. What Lucerne mentioned is true, the machines where only limited by their tires ability to bite in and hold. I saw a crew working and the guys picking up the trash could barely walk on the hillside and the machine was just flying back & forth below them.

Best of luck.

SAME Italy Tractor
Other Tractor Brands
Replies 5 Post by Murf

Gents, the implement that Chip is talking about is a side-delivery hay rake. Chip is right about field use, it is intended to move cut hay into a narrow windrow where it can be picked up by the baler.

It will do the same thing with anything that is not too heavy, we use one to do clean ups at a local race track after big events. We run around the place raking all the litter into rows where it can be picked up easily with pitch forks. If the seaweed is too heavy the spring fingers will just flex and drop the material, the trick seems to be to travel really slowly in heavy stuff and let it just nibble away at the material.

It also makes a FANTASTIC de-thatching tool.

Best of luck.

Beach Grading
New Holland Tractors
Replies 11 Post by Murf

My 4200 (1998) also has the fine mesh screen and filter as original equipment.

Upgrading Hydraulic suction filter on 4300
John Deere Tractors
Replies 9 Post by lockwoodfe

I just picked mine up last week. I have a front end loader and mid mount mower. I worked it over HARD this past weekend. It ran great. I dug up some autumn olive trees with the front end loader. I was really surprised at how much power it had for its size. The mower worked great, but I wish I had a bush hog style for the field grass. I bought the 24 HP because of it's size in a small package. I wish they had an indication that the parking brake was on, because I could easily drive in low with it lightly engaged. I didn't notice I had it set unless I removed my foot from the foward petal and came to an abrupt stop. I didn't get the cruise control or automatic fwd. So far, I really don't need them, even mowing around the fence row on a 60 acre farm. I haven't performed any maintenance on it yet, since the first is scheduled at 10 hours. I can already see the oil filter accessability is going to be a two step process to remove a guard to get to it. Mine was brand new, the tractor 9.5K, MMM-2K, and FEL, 2.7K.

TZ24DA
New Holland Tractors
Replies 4 Post by rwacho