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In talking with the Kioti rep and other dealers here, I don't think parts or dealers will be a problem. Thye have made a sizable investment recently in building parts distribution centers and improving dealers (ie weeding out the bad ones). They were originally imported by a import export company in the states and more recently it has been direct from Daejong the parent company.
The only other company that builds all the components and markets their tractors in the US is Kubota.
The CK20 is a new unit this year so it may have the new model blues, but as we have seen relatively few problems it is likely like the DK series which has been good.
The loaders and backhoe are made in the US so?

CK20HST
Kioti Tractors
Replies 5 Post by Peters

Sounds like a good present and good it's working beyond expectations. I think what you are experiencing is that ratings for AC equipment are pretty conservative and houses usually are running much below the service rating.

Even fairly high starting surges for electric motors are of short duration. There's a decent change that inertia of the engine, drive train and larger generator is sustaining the rpm for the short time it takes for a motor to come up speed even if the requirements are greater than the tractor's pto hp. A larger generator and higher surges will be a bit harder on the pto clutch. You probably don't have to consider if the generator is exceeding it's duty cycle though.

Several motors starting up at the same time could be a different story though. I know that's what my 6.5kw standalone doesn't like much--never have popped a main though. It is possible for a big generator to bring a tractor down. That might be an issue if a number of large motors are on the system and it's running unattended. If it's an issue smaller mains probably could be installed.

PTO Generators Observations
Shop Tools
Replies 85 Post by TomG

Dang! My first post only had the second of two paragraphs. I corrected it. Don't imagine the missing part added much to your comment though. It was mostly for people who haven't heard of the relationship between pump flow and reservoir capacity. I think the rule of thumb is around 2.5 to 3 times reservoir capacity to pump flow and more for motors.

My curiosity is that I can see how cooling increases with flow through an oil cooler but I can't see it changing much if there's just a reservoir. I'd think that heat dissipation from a reservoir would be mostly dependent on the surface area and time. Flow through it shouldn't make much difference. From some perspective I'd think that work at lower rpm's would be spread over longer times so heat problems should be less if anything. That is, as long as the efficiency stays the same, which is what I don't know. I am interested though. Reduced efficiency would increase the amount of heat generated in getting a job done.

Back hoe on a sub-compact
Loaders Back Hoes
Replies 43 Post by TomG

Chief--- always looking for more info/education--- what's the "other tractor board"?

Jerry

Stolen Tractor
Just For Fun Off Topic
Replies 28 Post by harley152

Murph got some pictures up of my version of the anti gouge device you described let me know what you think.

plowing snow with FEL
Kubota Tractors
Replies 54 Post by drcjv.

Mark:
How about for digging deck footings? I will be installing a large, multi-tiered deck all the way across the back of the house (probably 1000 SF total). That is going to require many footings. Will a BH dig them as well as a PHD?

Price for BX23 60 quot MMM post hole digger and box blade
Kubota Tractors
Replies 10 Post by thepipe

I think the main idea to get used to is that operating the lever isn't the same as raising or lowering the hitch. Changing a position control hitch changes the position. In operation a changed position may raise, lower or do nothing to the height of a hitch. Particularly when a hitch is in float, there's no way to tell how far up the lever much be pulled to put the hitch in lift, and the amount of float changes as both the implement and tractor follow the ground contour.

When I first got my scraper I tried some grading. The scraper would try to take bigger bits as it first started up hills. I tried to reduce that by raising the 3ph as I started up a hill--it didn't work very well. What I now realize is that even if there was little float when on the level, the float increased as the tractor started up a hill. Anytime a hitch has float, there's a range where pulling the lever up does nothing. I'd inch the lever up and nothing would happen. By the time I would hit lift, the scraper would already be on the hill and would dump the box. I just don't think a position control hitch is designed for this type of control. I was certainly never able to get good results trying it.

Position Control question
Kubota Tractors
Replies 10 Post by TomG

Found an interesting web page wwwytmag.com or" todays tractors"<br>

other opinions
Home Improvement
Replies 1 Post by grinder

Chief
another consideration is the draft,is your chimmney top
above your highest point in your roof?18-36" is a good
rule of thumb.
Is your woodstove on it's own flue?
just some thoughts.

Chimmney Fires
Home Improvement
Replies 16 Post by grinder

I was editing photos and forgot I had one with tractor all chained up. Photo # 9

These were built for the R-1s on my old Ford and I did have to ad a few links to each cross link on the rears. They are old throway truck chains with pieces of grader chain and what ever else was handy. Each chain on the rear is well over 100#. I did have some old double rings thrown in on old set but there would have been clearance issues on this tractor.

The fronts are off 9.50X16.5 tires and the extra cross chains were added. All cross chains on front are v-bar for ice. These are a little long and the side chain rubs the tie rod end occasionally. But I keep it greased and push in new more than I really need to. Maybe this year since its all chained up and no where to blow I'll cut the cross links to shorten.

More tire chain questions
Parts and Repair
Replies 25 Post by harvey

I am sure some will be able to help you tomorrow before you go back to the dealer. You may have already scanned the Kubota, JD and NH Price forums but I find them informative.

Kubota 7100 7200 and JD 750
Kubota Tractors
Replies 3 Post by GaleHawkins

They appear to have used tractors and parts and do rebuilds.

Homestead Tractor Parts
22311 Bear Valley Rd. - Apple Valley, CA 92308
Telephone : (760) 240 - 1062 / Fax : (760) 240 - 1126

HOURS - Pacific Standard Time
Monday thru Friday : 8 am - 5 pm
Saturday : 8 am - 12 pm

Hinomoto S107 engine
Hinomoto
Replies 5 Post by GaleHawkins

C174 4 WD 20 3 1593 83" 40" 64"

Hinomoto E174
Hinomoto
Replies 3 Post by GaleHawkins

From their website and photos I would give these a call.

Homestead Tractor Parts
22311 Bear Valley Rd. - Apple Valley, CA 92308
Telephone : (760) 240 - 1062 / Fax : (760) 240 - 1126

HOURS - Pacific Standard Time
Monday thru Friday : 8 am - 5 pm
Saturday : 8 am - 12 pm

E394 Hinomoto cracked transmission housing
Hinomoto
Replies 3 Post by GaleHawkins

E18 2 WD 22 2 1742 94" 45" 50"
E18 4 WD 22 2 1870 94" 45" 50"

The link has or will rebuilt parts for China made tractors they state.

Look under Shibaura on this site for links for specs on more China tractors

Hinomoto Manual and Info
Hinomoto
Replies 2 Post by GaleHawkins

This site has specs for 8 brands including Shibaura. I noticed it states HP is estimated and when comparing it to the link from the Used Dealer in Japan I can see they do not agree. For some reason I better trust the HP numbers from the site in Japan. HINOMOTO, MITSUBISHI, ISEKI, JINMA, TASK MASTER, KUBOTA, YANMAR are the brands listed on the site.

SHIBAURA Farm Tractor Specs
Shibaura
Replies 5 Post by GaleHawkins

I maintain about a mile of private road for 22 homes. 3 years ago I started putting on calcium chloride for dust control. It pulls moisture out of the air and keeps the road damp. It cuts the dust way down and the road retains its fines. I use 30 bags on the road in late spring and it lasts at least 6 months. I hook a small trailer to my tractor and a broadcaster to my trailer. It spreads very evenly and cost about 12 bucks a bag. I get it from southern states which is our ag store. It's good because unlike oils or cement it will not cake or crust.

Box blades
Operating and Attachments
Replies 18 Post by crozier

Wallac,

I see what you mean. It took me 4 times adjusting before I got it. But now "she aint nothin but right" Thanks for the help.

CK 20 with MMM
Kioti Tractors
Replies 14 Post by crozier

Yes, his grapple looks like it would be good at log handling and is probably lighter than mine as well. Mine would be better at brush I think.

The short story of my rollover is that the ground under the left side of the tractor gave way. I wouldn't have been in that position if the R4s hadn't completely plugged with clay and lost traction though. No harm done, to me OR the tractor. Not even a scratch. As it turned over the loader arms contacted a tree which was slowly pushed over, cushioning the tractor as it went over. I have since replaced the R4s with R1s which should be much better in our soft clay.

JD quality vs Kubota quality
John Deere Tractors
Replies 48 Post by kwschumm

I have owned a 1994 ,1997,1999,these were gas with 318 engine. got 15 to 16 mpg highway, so I herd about cummins with great fuel milage. so I picked up a new 2001 4x4 quad cab,stock rear put 47000 miles on it all highway ,in 30 months my fuel milage was the same from day one to trade for new 2003 truck. milage was 16 around town the little I drove it in town.highway was18.5 never change also truck was automatic.my 2001 was 215 hp, my new 2003 is 250 hp same everthing and my milage is 19.5 highway at speed of 65mph also same speed as 2001 just a little better.took truck to florida from ny last year and speed was 70 to 80 mph, watch mpg drop at 80 I got 17 t0 17.5 the cummins does not like high speeds for good fuel mpg.the 2003 is 13 months old and have 23000 on it now,still mpg is same from day one. cummins says no brake in needed so I guess thats why both 2001 and 2003 mpg was always the same from day one on.I here about people getting high 20s but I think they must not drive over 45 to 50 on highway . will be looking at the new ho with 325 hp next truck, would like to her some facts on mpg .

What Kind of Fuel Milage Are You Getting From Your Cummins
Pickup Trucks and Trailers
Replies 26 Post by kully560