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I think youwill enjoy the options youwill have. The BX23 series starts out with a retail price of just over 17,000. The other pieces very in price with quality.

Price for BX23 60 quot MMM post hole digger and box blade
Kubota Tractors
Replies 10 Post by Art White

I was going to buy the 454 at first. Glad I didn't with everything that I've been hearing. They are very big and heavy. Could not find 454 in crate at the time. Thank God. I was talking to a couple of people on the CTOA's.
There use to be two pages now there's only one. I think, I really don't know anymore what's going to happen. I have the same problem every time I get my property taxes, which are going up 37% again. I don't think anybody is listening to me. West Virginia is sounding better and better all the time. There is getting to be too many people up here in the Blue Mountains in PA. Back to the point. One fellow just got a 354 crated Jinma, I didn't even get his name when the site went down. I would like to talk to him because our tractors are probably very much the same. I wanted to see if he has any problems. He already gave me some really good info. I hope you read this.
Ralph Miller

Agracat Tractor
Jinma Farmpro Agracat Nortrac
Replies 40 Post by ralph m

Well I believe its just a jinma,so don't limit your self to farmpro,other dealers sell the same tractor, well the same basic tractor,there are differences, you can order them from the factory with this instead of that,cheap instead of top of the line,and how they are put together means a lot,get one from a dealer who has been in bussiness a few years,[anyways],and who will stay in business a few more,who will offer you a parts and labor warrenty when buying,etc.Get on Johns tractor,its a web page,maybe johns jinma tractor,something like that,he has got a list of dealers,I believe his address is on this board under the survey question. Richard

Farm Pro
Jinma Farmpro Agracat Nortrac
Replies 10 Post by gauthier

Local dealer has one for $13,800 So you might have a little room to dicker, with a loader he wants $16,900

List Price for Kioti DK 35
Kioti Tractors
Replies 6 Post by loghouse95

Craig, aside from the false alarm on the recal; how do you like your 4410 so far? Any comments or observations of yours would be interesting to hear. I am real happy with mine so far. I just wish the rain would give it a break so I can get it out and use it more without leaving tracks in the yard. Haven't seen you posting much as of late. Is work over at Penn keeping you busy? Thanks again for your help. I have used it many many times. Have a great New Year!

Randy

Recall Confusion
John Deere Tractors
Replies 5 Post by Chief

Mark, I wouldn't be at all concerned about that horsepower dip considering the added performance and power of the three ranges for the added power I've seen in them. There is a bigger horsepower loss from all hydro's that overwhelms the gear drive paper advantage.

Hello Green Goodbye Orange
John Deere Tractors
Replies 74 Post by Art White

Hello<br>
For any one interested their will be Zetor and Century tractors on display at the Keystone Farm Show in York, PA from Jan. 6-8 and then again at the PA Farm Show in Harrisburg, PA from Jan 10-17. Come on down and take a look. Hope to see your there.<br>
Chipperman <br>

Century and Zetor on display PA
Other Tractor Brands
Replies 1 Post by chipperman

If it helps boost sales! Maybe I will try that line to!

CK 20 with MMM
Kioti Tractors
Replies 14 Post by wallac

In my 4410 operator's manual on pg. 33 there is a note which states the following:

NOTE: On eHydro and ePowerReverser models, a "pop" sound may be heard when MFWD is engaged. This is normal for MFWD operation.

On pg. 34 another note that states:

NOTE: It may be necessary to reduce engine load to disengage front wheel drive.

Whenever I shift into or out of MFWD I bring the tractor to a stop with wheels straight and engine to an idle. This is not required but it does seem to reduce the engagement and disengagement roughness to a minimum. I usually watch the front tires for a slight forward jump when engaging and disengageing.

Sounds to me like your system is operating as advertised and you will adjust to the traits and peculiararities of your new and by the way VERY nice tractor! ;o)

Just as a precaution, I would check the front axle oil level to to be sure it has the proper fill of oil. This should already have been taken care of by the dealer but sometimes folks make mistakes.

John Deere 4710 4wd
John Deere Tractors
Replies 2 Post by Chief

Top link bracket pulled for rear end housing - Bell housing cracked. Stump pulling is in the top ranks of abuse, that you can put on a machine (in my opinion) Think about this when you hook on something and start pulling what is it trying to do? It's trying to lift the machine by pulling on the top link, Now when you use a subframe you are now lifting the machine from the bottom in which there is no pulling in one direct spot! I know for sure KIOTI and MAHINDRA will not warranty the tractor if they know there is a 3 pt. hoe (and that is obvious when you see a machine)

Back hoe on a sub-compact
Loaders Back Hoes
Replies 43 Post by wallac

Any snowblower should be able to throw powder snow about 30 feet with the chute fully open. Each chute has a moveable piece at the top that determines how far it will throw it by defecting it.<br>
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Sounds like the blower is rotating too slow.<br>
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Dennis<br>
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Woods Snowblower
Snowblowers / Snow Plows
Replies 5 Post by DennisCTB

Hang in there. The wheels of justice turn mighty slow. Hopefully things will work out and the DA may offer some kind of deal to him if he pays you your money. Thanks for giving us that latest.

Stolen Tractor
Just For Fun Off Topic
Replies 28 Post by Chief

Tractortips has info on this model. Check the link below.

MF1045 4wd
Massey Ferguson Tractors
Replies 8 Post by kwschumm

Psimonson, Thanks for the feedback and web sights, sounds like you got lots of experence on the sub-compact BH area. I'd be interested in tapping into that knowledge base. How do I go about getting a copy of what you have? Looked at the pictures again, nicely done!

John Deere 2210 Backhoe Review
John Deere Tractors
Replies 26 Post by tamanaco

The tillage other then tilling would all be done better with the GST. Remember that the flexibility of the hydro's drive speeds gives you an advantage with the pto work. Ever notice with your old tractor that if you had another gear in between you would have gone for it? Thats the plus of a hydro, the loss of power to the ground would increase the fuel being burnt to overcome the parasitic loss from the hydro. The glideshift with 12 speeds forward will give you more gearing options then what you currently have so that would be a plus. For your knee you won't be needing to use the clutch so much because of the foreward and reverse shuttle and the 12 speed powershift transmission like used in the bigger farm tractors. You definitly will notice an improvement in performance as well as relief from what bothers you now and with 9 speeds below six miles per hour you should have all the options covered.

Kubota model to replace JD 850
Kubota Tractors
Replies 8 Post by Art White

Hurliman, from your handle I know where you are coming from. If ballast is used as recommended he will do just fine with the steel frame that they use to build these tractors the same as one built out of antiquated cast iron molds that might have difficulty with consistancy of the product.

New toy came today
Kubota Tractors
Replies 13 Post by Art White

I had a B7200 (same size to B7510 but less HP)and moved up to the B-7800. It was like night and day moving snow. The smaller machine just didn't have enough weight to get traction and not enough ground clearance. I only have a 200' driveway and can clean 12 inches of wet snow in about 10 minutes. I cleaned my neighbors drive which has two steep hills and going up the hill it did ok, but coming down the hill I just kept pushing and barely had to open the throttle. The 7800 is the way to go especially with the ground clearance.
Good luck.

bx23 vs b7510 vs b7800- machine will do the job
Kubota Tractors
Replies 25 Post by kubotaguy

The initial run of the 4000 series had problems with turf work as the tires were digging up the the turf in tight corners. They came out with a different front axle for those who purchased there tractors with a belly mower. The others to the best of my knowledge of the original builds were not addressed. Harvey I know has the old model and he might be able to tell us more as to where they are with it as I know he loves his jd equipment!

JD quality vs Kubota quality
John Deere Tractors
Replies 48 Post by Art White

Thanks for the info, I do plan on venturing out of the big 3 and looking at others.
I won't be buying for a few months so I have time and just want to get as much info as possible.

HST vs Manual and size of tractor
New Holland Tractors
Replies 16 Post by raynman

I think wheel weights are best for traction. Adding 3ph weight is a mixed blessing since it increases rear traction but reduces front traction. The net result is more traction since the rear tires are larger but I suspect that it'd take more weight to drag around to get the same traction increase produced by wheel weight.

If I remember, percent tire slippage is one of the Nebraska Tractor Test measures. It is a problem for farm tractors doing draft work since it's an ongoing power loss. Most of us probably have felt it and I seem to recall that it's around 20% by the time it can be felt, which is too high. Wheel weight is good at managing slippage, but it's still takes power moving weight both along the ground and in a circle. I think many tractor pull rigs suspend wheel weigh on bearings to minimize the rotating mass that has to be accelerated.

Wheel weights
Kubota Tractors
Replies 8 Post by TomG