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Take one look at the frame on the Simplicity and you'll have your answer. Don't be deceived by HP ratings; all of them have more engine power than you could possibly put to use with a tractor of that size and weight. The Kubota and the Deere are superior machines. The Kubota will likely give you the best bang for your buck, but go with the DEALER you like best. If you're going to keep a tractor for the long haul, you'll want a dealer who supports their product well. I drive 15 miles out of my way because that dealer has a better reputation than the one I pass every day to and from work.

Which to buy BX2200 Deer 2210 Simplicity XL - they re all about 15k
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Replies 25 Post by jarndt

Maintain Driveway = any BX
Cut Grass (1 Acre or Two) = any BX
Haul Wood = any BX (with trailer) or large B-series (for small log skidding)
Some Drainage for gutters = BX23
Plant Grass, (rent tiller) = any BX (48" max)
Make Trails = any BX
Landscaping = any BX
Make Pond = BX23 (small ornamental pond) or B21 (rental unit) or hire out (for anything over ~24' across)
Excavate for Garage = B21 (rental unit) or hire out

Size
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Replies 19 Post by jarndt

funchy,

Once upon a time I called to inquire about price on the Salsco unit. It's been a while, but I'd like to say it was in the neighborhood of $1200 - $1500. Don't take it as gospel though.

I was thinking about buying one because I have a constant flow of debris raining down from all the trees on my property, but I decided a weekly bonfire is much more cost effective!

New BX23 Owner
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Replies 23 Post by jarndt

I'm familiar with the mini-spreader from King Kutter. It's a decent unit and just the right size. It's also priced lower than all the other 3PH mounted units I've seen to date. The trouble is there are two TSC stores within a reasonable distance and neither has any stock nor does the warehouse. It could be over a month before I'd see one. Same story from a half dozen tractor dealers in my area on higher priced (and larger) units. That kinda sucks considering I wanted to get going two weeks ago! It really surprised me that no one has any stock because now is the time people are starting to put down pre-emergents. Actually I resolved the problem yesterday when I finally found a decently built tow-behind unit. It has nearly the same capacity as the KK mini at about $200 less. The only drawback is I won't be able to open and close the chute without getting off the tractor, and we all know that isn't going to happen every time I need to turn around! My plan is to fertilize more often at a lower rate to avoid overloading the soil.

BX Broadcast Spreader
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Replies 11 Post by jarndt

daveinnh,

A relative of mine has had his Kubota for 20 years now. No plans to replace it; there's no reason to, it still works as good as the day he took delivery! I'm glad you like yours.

Murf,

I have to agree with you on the snow removal issue, but you simply can't beat the price of a simple rear blade. They're an order of magnitude less in price. For your average home/land owner it can be difficult to justify the additional cost of a fancy hydraulic front blade or a rear blower. But for commercial use (like yours) or up north where you could be clearing snow daily from October through March, it's the only reasonable option.

pleased with Kubota 4310 HST
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Replies 4 Post by jarndt

coveredbridge,

BTW, I cheated some extra flexibility into the 3PH on my BX1500 by replacing the fixed length lifting rod with an adjustable rod (same as the RH lifting rod). You can make it out in some of my pics. I can adjust one up and the other down for extra tilt, and I can adjust them both all the way up to get extra lift. Just watch out for interference with the PTO guard and be careful not to bend your top link.

BX1500 coming Friday
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Replies 27 Post by jarndt

The open slot in the fender... I've already been down that road. A while back I wanted to add a ctrl valve for tiltable top link. From what I understand, the open slot is not used in the U.S., rather overseas. I don't know why it isn't available here, maybe one of the dealers knows more. I don't see any reason why you couldn't fab up a ctrl lever that utilized the open slot though. There is a rear remote add-on kit available from Kubota for the BX, but the valve clamps onto the ROPS and looks a little hokey.

BX7322 Valve Kit Rear Remote
BX7323 Hose Kit (with loader)
BX7324 Hose Kit (without loader)

Open Center hydraulic control valve question
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Replies 3 Post by jarndt

The box scraper idea is right on. It provides ballast and doubles as a ripper/bulldozer.

If you haven't used a BX, you'll be AMAZED at how capable they are. Ask the dealer if you can take one home for a weekend to try before you buy. Even if you had to pay a rental fee, it would be worth it to help make the decision.

B2410 used vs new Kubota or 2210 4010
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Replies 7 Post by jarndt

No offense, but has anyone else noticed this train derailed after about the fifth post?

In general, galvanized steel or stainless steel lines are considered better quality and are more suited to a permanent installation. That's why most OEMs are set up that way.

Reinforced rubber lines can also be of equally high quality and are easier to install, but MAY degrade faster and will expand under high pressure.

It boils down to personal preference. Don't overanalyze it!

Metal vs Rubber hydraulic lines
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Replies 11 Post by jarndt

No problem, that's what this board is all about!

I'm not sure what to do about your downloading problem, but I responded to some elses request for information under your original post. The response decribes how to have info emailed to you directly from the site. That's how I got it in the first place. If you still have trouble, we could try exchanging files privately.

BX 1500 follow-up
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Replies 2 Post by jarndt

AVANCE,

Start at the home page for tractorsmart dot com. Under "PARTS", click on "Kubota B Series Parts". At the top of the next page click where it says "click here" to have parts info sent via email. Select B-series again, fill out the form and submit. The link will be sent to your email address of choice. It's a bit of a pain, but it works. Sometimes you can look at the URL and manually modify it to get the particular PDF file you're looking for, but I tried it for "B7100HST.PDF" with no luck. Hope this helps.

Kubota BX 1500 Hydraulics question
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Replies 8 Post by jarndt

The BX series will run a 48" bushhog W/O any trouble. The BX1500 would be better off with a 42". With any BX, buy implemtents specifically made for subcompacts. You'll be dissappointed otherwise. There are lots of Sub-CUT implement MFRs out there these days. A BX23 sounds like a very good match to your needs!

bx23 questions
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Replies 11 Post by jarndt

matthewh,

Don't worry about bending the bucket. Buckets can be reinforced easily with steel angle and a MIG welder. Chances are you'll eventually bend it anyway. When's the last time you saw a perfectly straight bucket on a landscaping tractor? It'd be like a work truck without a dent!

Another thought... If you're using this tractor for your business and your business does well, you should be able to upgrade to a more fully featured machine later!

Get the B7800 and call it a day. Good luck, and let us know how your sales experience goes.

Undecided b7800 vs L2800
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Replies 35 Post by jarndt

Sounds like a good deal. You might want to ask the dealer why he still has a 2002 on the lot or how he aquired it. That's a pretty popular model to still be hanging around. A trade in, possibly?

difference between 2002 b2710 and current b2710
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Replies 3 Post by jarndt

I can't help you with your question about engine compatibility, but if I may make a recommendation... an alternate idea would be to rebuild the original engine. You said you think you will need to replace the engine "soon". To me, that says you don't have a catastrophic failure, it might just be worn out. Diesel engines are very simple. It's common to rebuild a long-service diesel several times during its life. A tractor with a rebuilt original engine will be worth more in resale than a tractor with a frankenstein drivetrain.

B6200 engine replacement will this fit
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Replies 2 Post by jarndt

As with any loan, don't wait until you have a payment coupon to send in your payment. It's not worth a stain on your credit history. A late payment is a late payment whether or not you had a coupon. It's obviously not fair, but it's still YOUR responsibility to pay your creditor, after all, it is THEIR money. This does not excuse bad customer service, but in a pissing contest with a creditor you'll ALWAYS lose.

L 3130 Info Needed
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Replies 21 Post by jarndt

My uncle's L2250 had calcium filled tires. They did rust through, but it took nearly 20 years. I understand there are less corrosive products available today.

Took Delivery 3430 HST C 723 FEL
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Replies 2 Post by jarndt

That's another good suggestion, thanks. To answer your question; Yes, a lip could fashioned, however I do not want to weld or drill through the tractor frame (warrenty issues). The projection will actually be 6" since I am making six plates out of the two steel bars. I'm a mechanical engineer, so I definitely know that using bolts in shear is not the best scenario, but I'm actaully using grade 8 studs threaded from both ends. The plates will be stacked and sandwiched agaist the frame. There will be no gap. I expect to tighten the studs enough that they will be in a significant amount of tension. There are six holes in the front frame cross member on a BX. I plan to use the upper two so the holes in the plates will be offset upwards. This should help reduce the bending moment on the studs. If things look marginal, I can always use four or all six of the holes.

BX Front Weight Set Project
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Replies 6 Post by jarndt

You might get lucky and find a BX deck, but I'm sure used ones are few and far between. My vote is for a rear finish mower. They're not as manuverable as a MMM, but they go on and off arguably easier and used ones will be much more plentiful.

BTW, I don't mean for my above comments to degress into a MMM vs. RFM argument. The only real point is that a RFM will be easier to find on the used market.

BX2200 deck
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Replies 5 Post by jarndt

It's the plastic panel that fits over the gauges and indicator lights. I believe you answered my question 'double sided foam tape', which is what I thought. I was worried because sometimes things like this are attached with delicate plastic fasteners prone to breakage. I think I'll contact my dealer to notify him of the problem and get a recommendation. I'll make sure that he records it, but probably not take it in until there is a real need. That is unless he gives me a complelling reason otherwise. Thanks for the suggestions!

Dashboard Applique
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Replies 6 Post by jarndt