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Glad to hear you got away unhurt!

There was on a news program some years ago an amateur video shown, taken by a nervous person watching his neighbour cutting down a big oak in his garden. The nervous one had by words forbidden his neighbour taking down the tree, as his garage was right beside it, on the other side of the fence.

Still the neighbour had arranged with a mobile crane of several ten tons, tied the tree to it. The camera shows the tree as the chainsaw yells and the cracking beginns. Then the picture is pointing hazardous around as the cameraman runs away and a crasch can be heard.

A bit distance away the camera turns to the scene. The tree lies over the garage on the nervous persons all lawn and the crane lies on side, showing its chassi to the world with the boom all over the place...

Sometimes there is just not enough heaviness. How a professional crane operator can make such an error, I do not understand. Big tree full of leaf!

So I am as everyone here glad you got away with it. As an amateur I have also taken down a few trees and I do have LARGE respect for heaviness, momentum and forces connected to such work.

Rollover Story
Parts and Repair
Replies 13 Post by commodore

I lift this thread, as I would like a bit more information. I have several indications that I am out right in size in my favourite, as I have got answers pointing at the same size of tractor in the JD board.

Agrokid seems a bit big for my lawnmowing, but does of course do a better job on the heavier tasks. No hydro available, sinks the marks.

Erik, Sweden

Would like your suggestion tractor and implements for my needs Part1
Operating and Attachments
Replies 3 Post by commodore

Hello Iowafun!
Thanks, I am more like a hobbyfarmer also, at least more hobbyfarmer than 500+ acre farmer...

To me it would be interesting seeing most different sorts of machinery, but if there are not most of the CUT suppliers represented with most of the models also, it would be a miss.

I just tried searching "agricultural fairs" and "agricultural machinery fairs" and there were a few hits, really. The nearest in time is AG Expo at Michigan State University, middle July. Last years exhibitorlist tells Kubota and Cub Cadet for Lawn and Garden and Kubota for Tractors. Can there be so low interest showing latest products or have I read wrong? http://www.agexpo.msu.edu/index.html

To the other fairs I seem to be far too early or late. Most are in January to March and September to November.

There is a show at a local machinery shop tuesday 22.3 for Case IH tractors and they make a larger number of the new compact JX. I dont think its so compact i like, but I will go there to find if there can be possibilities for smaller tractors or at least spare part supply for a tractor model not sold here. Wish me luck.

Erik

Fairs
Everything and Anything
Replies 6 Post by commodore

Hi!

A friend of mine has bought a lot of things to his chevy trucks (�50s and �60s) in US and recieved it sometimes in just a few days with airfreight. So until now I have been in some ignorance that parts will not be a problem. But of course I must look through that.

I saw a JD 4115 for sale here last summer, one year old, around 50 hours of use. It was told they had had it while they builded a house. A frontblade and a toolcarryboard on 3ph was all in the deal, maybe they had sold more implements aside. Asked price? 285.000 SEK. I dont remember the rate at that time (I think around 8.50), but today with around 6.80 would that be well over 40.000$. Do you see my interest going over the ocean to buy? I will have a pleasant journey as a bonus.

Erik

Size tractor needed
New Holland Tractors
Replies 7 Post by commodore

I am probably seeking solutions that does not exist, but I am also aware of that. The problem is not the size of the gate. It is not easy to enlarge it, but still, it is not the main thing. I want a combination of very useful toys that can handle all things, let go some of them a bit lowpowered... The backhoe thing is that. If it takes a bit of time, no problem. The bigger stones will be left. The stones too big for the tractor, can be dug down a bit. The footprint of a commercial TLB or excavator is not an option in that part of the acrage, because of an earthheatconverter to the house.

Probably a better solution is to buy a good riding mower and a 30-40 years old utility tractor with loader, but that is not what I want. I read a thread about a guy here at tractorpoint that was also on the same track. Maybe not so much play for him as for me. But I want all those funny toys to have a pleasant time mowing, digging, moving dirt, moving snow and so on, since most of it is a must to be done. And for the bushes and trees the tractor of course has to be small, otherwise an 8520 would be completely OK... :)

I saw a JD 4115 for sale here last summer, one year old, around 50 hours of use. It was told they had had it while they builded a house. A frontblade and a toolcarryboard on 3ph was all in the deal, maybe they had sold more implements aside. Asked price? 285.000 SEK. I dont remember the rate at that time (I think around 8.50), but today with around 6.80 would that be well over 40.000$. Do you see my interest going over the ocean to buy? I will have a pleasant journey as a bonus.

A friend of mine has bought a lot of things to his chevy trucks (�50s and �60s) in US and recieved it sometimes in just a few days with airfreight. So until now I have been in some ignorance that parts will not be a problem. But of course I must look through that.

I apriciate your thoughts! So far 4115 seems to be the best green solution. What price difference makes 4110 to 4115? And what price range would tractor with sufficient hydraulics, blower, blade, MMM, loader, hoe be?

Erik

Tractor size
Snowblowers / Snow Plows
Replies 8 Post by commodore

Hello you all green fans!<br>
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I have written half a novel question at "size tractor needed" and is interested to hear your opinions of what tractor you would suggest. Anyone owning a Deere suiting my needs?<br>
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Erik, Sweden<br>
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Size tractor needed
John Deere Tractors
Replies 10 Post by commodore

Hello you all orange fans!<br>
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I have written half a novel question at "size tractor needed" and is interested to hear your opinions of what tractor you would suggest. Anyone owning a Kubota suiting my needs?<br>
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Erik, Sweden<br>
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Size tractor needed
Kubota Tractors
Replies 1 Post by commodore

Art: What price do you think the two will be asked for?

Erik, Sweden

New Kubota B3030 replaces B2910
Kubota Tractors
Replies 11 Post by commodore

Anyone knowing anything about the B3030 pictured on www.compacttractorreview.com? Nothing on Kubota.com, as far as I could see.<br>
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The dollar is approaching levels that makes it possible to go buying a CUT in the US and to container it to Sweden... :)<br>
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Erik

Kubota B3030
Kubota Tractors
Replies 3 Post by commodore

I have seen two models of NH I do not recognize, TC23 and TC26. Someone written wrong or are they new models recently presented? No info at corimpco or tarheel about those.<br>
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Erik, Sweden

TC23DA TC24DA TC26DA
New Holland Tractors
Replies 2 Post by commodore

Hello oneace!

Thanks for your answer, but I must point at the similarites with those tractors on www.shibaura.com, sold by a company in Netherlands (which in older days was named Holland!!!) here in Europe. I compared the prior model TC24 with Shibaura ST324 and cannot say I found a single figure differed! Is it really that way, New Holland build those tractors in the US and put Japanese engines in them? Or do you just mean the outside design is New Holland?

Erik, Sweden (Northern Europe)

Case DX vs NH Tc
Case
Replies 6 Post by commodore

Hi!<br>
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This discussion is some months old, but new to me. Reading through it makes me react on a few things. But first of all to say: I am just theoretically teached about hydraulics and have almost NO practical experiance at all. But my teachers at The Royal Institute Of Technology in Stockholm, Sweden, has worked in cooperation with industrial problems for ages and has a lot input to give when one ask.<br>
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What I learnt from them in a course "Hydraulics" was:<br>
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1: Never ever use a system to flow over a pressure limit valve. Let the load always determine the pressure. The pressure limit valve opens just a little gap and the fluid runs in speeds near the speed of sound through the gap, causing vacuum bubbles on the other side of it. The vacuum bubbles immidiately implodes (opposite to explode) causing the molecules in the oil to fall apart. What happens is that the oil very fast gets destroyed in its nature of behavior and no longer withstands the performance it is said to have.<br>
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2: It is a good idea to have a separate oil cooling line in series with a filter (means separate oil pump, that does not need to be high performance, just make a flow). That makes the filtering capacity and cooling capacity constant, which is good for filtering performance and good to life length of the oil. If the only filtering capacity is located at the line of implement use, the filter is recieving a very uneaven flow of oil, which is much less efficiant. That does not mean to disconnect a filter in that line and build up a new filter line INSTEAD, but it is very good as a complement.<br>
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3: Filters vary in quality and quality is not necessarily linear to price. Mount a twice as big filter and recieve 4 times larger capacity of filtering the size of particles it is said to manage. The filters has always a filtering ability, which is a performance a filter salesman should be able of telling you. Also the pressure fall over the filter is such a performance. I can not say that I know that you can change from a manufacturer specified filter to another, because then I probably get killed by someone, but me myself would definitely change to a larger and better one than specified. Manufacturers always hunt for lower prices and counterweighs the quality specifications to it. The oil is supposed to carry away wear particles and the particles are supposed to get catched in the filter. Any particle which is not belonging to the oil when you filled the oil into the system, is bad to the system. But one must have a filter that does not filter away as small particles as the working molecules in the oil...<br>
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4: Oil age. In cars engines, the oil mostly age of oxidation. Yes, the PH sinks due to condensation and causes rust to the metal bearings in the engine. Particles is not a big problem in engines, as far as I have learnt. In hydraulic systems the problems also many times relate to oxidation of the oil. Water comes into it of several reasons, as condensation in the tank for example. The hydraulic cylinders will not be completely emptied of oil, because the oil often flow forward and back in the near of the piston. A good advice must be to make some gymnastics to the device before turning it off, when the system is in working temperature. Dont slam the mechanics into end positions though, that will cause other problems... Another good advice must be not to spare a few bucks not to change oil and filter. The oil ages and the filter saves the machinery from internal wear from particles.<br>
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5: As far as I can see, the best thing must be to have a separate pump to a backhoe, if it is not often used. Link the system of the tractor up with the hoe and mix the old oil with the probably newer oil in the tractor. OK, my opinion.<br>
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Yep, this was a load from one who do not know anything... Everyone must be careful about him/herself and curious/watching out for knowledge. The only way to make desicions about oneself is to listen to as many as possible and then decide what is right. This was a complement to all the other posts here and I think that with consideration of all said here, a newbie would know quite a bit how to care for him/herself and the machinery around. I learn all the time!<br>
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And I still want a Compact... and a piece of land to play around on. I do not really know what is the most important! :)<br>
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Erik, Sweden

Back hoe on a sub-compact
Loaders Back Hoes
Replies 43 Post by commodore

Now that I have read Brokenarrows initial question again, I agree that the discussion has gained a lot of momentum and treat things not asked for by him.<br>
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Everybody are naturally welcome to do whatever they like. Absolutely no problem to me. One has to decide what one do to oneself and what is right to me is not selfclearly right to another. What is to be treated by law or not is another thing.<br>
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I must say that I am not really relying to the ROPS and belt if anything happen anyway. If the thing turns over, it is high probability to get injured anyway and maybe there is such a safetyfactor in the structure that a pair of holes for lights doesn�t matter. <br>
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But still it is for me right not to make any changes to safety devices of any kind. And Brokenarrow: Sorry for taking discussion higher. I do absolutely not know if there is any bolt on-lightbars for sale by any manufacturer, except for itsgottobegreen.<br>
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Erik, Sweden

Lights on ROPS
New Holland Tractors
Replies 38 Post by commodore

Hi!<br>
I envy you over there who have that great market with machines we almost never see here in Europe. At first I searched for a lawn tractor, but when I invented the market on the internet, the Compact Tractor popped up. Is there anyone who can show pics of a Kub B2410? Would be nice to see one in action, away from those advertising pictures on the selling sites. Like AV8R:s site.<br>
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Regards,<br>
Erik T�rnqvist, Stockholm, Sweden

Pictures on B2410
Kubota Tractors
Replies 1 Post by commodore