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Thanks for all the helpful comments and advice. I didn't have the cash to proceed yet anyway. Now that it's looking possible, I'm leaning toward a Kioti CK20HST. Seems like it'll do what I want with a lot less surface damage than any skid loader. Now if I can only raise the money before steel surcharges go up again and the dollar drops further!

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Replies 9 Post by chelydra

Thanks for all the replies so far - very informative. I'll only be managing about 2 active acres, so even the BX23 may be overkill vs. something even smaller plus occasional Bobcat rentals. But if I have a capable machine, I'll do more of what I want: clearing and landscaping, slinging logs and boulders, regrading the gravel driveway regularly. I'm also getting too old to shovel snow, and these TLs apparently have the power to push anything we get in MA even w/o a blower.

Compaction is a real issue, so I'd planned on turf tires and being careful to drive over dry or frozen ground. That might rule out the CK25 or CK30 as much as the extra cost. The big attraction of the CK20 over the BX23 is the huge increase in load capacity, if the specs are true - about double. I'd be able to use a 24" bucket for lifting out small trees and large shrubs, plus scooping lots of soil from places the loader won't reach. How do they get so much more lifting power from the same engine HP?

Will appreciate your further opinions - might be a few months before I have the cash to buy something.

CK20 vs BX23
Kioti Tractors
Replies 9 Post by chelydra

I've been admiring the BX23, and hope to have the cash in a few months. Application is heavy landscaping on about 3 acres, plus snow removal on 300' of driveway. Meanwhile, I just saw the Kioti CK20. It's a little heavier, but despite smaller engine seems to have TWICE the lift capacity! Best price I've seen for the BX-23 in E.MA/S.NH, is about $16k; the KIOTI TLB package was quoted at about $17.5k.<br>
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Anyone here able to compare? Thanks in advance for your ideas.

BX23 vs Kioti
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Replies 3 Post by chelydra

I am considering a BX-23, even though it's really over-budget right now. Plan to do landscaping on 2.5 acres, plus snow removal. Doesn't seem to be much market in used BX-22/23s here in eastern Mass. <br>
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One of my main jobs is lifting out fair-sized trees and shrubs for transplanting. The backhoe is way too small to go over them. Has anyone ever heard of mounting a bucket backwards so it scoops away from the machine? <br>
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Other questions, if anyone here knows: What's the largest bucket that the machine will mount? 16" would be more useful to me than the little one that seems standard. Also, I need to shape a bunch of slopes from beneath. How far up and out will the backhoe reach, and can it push good-sized rocks (say 300#) up-slope? What about pushing rocks sideways on level ground by swinging the BH?<br>
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Thanks very much for all info.

Backward backhoe
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Replies 2 Post by chelydra