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A few comments.<br>Turf tires. With turf tires, on dry sandy soil, loading the bucket with sand, the tractor will stall before the tires spin. that's enough traction for me. With chains on on ice, the turf tires do better than Ag tires without, and putting the chains on takes less than 5 minutes. (Secret - let some air out, tighten the chains, add some air)<br>On wet grass, turf tires slip a bit. That's what the 4 wheel drive/ diff lock are for. But when they do slip, they leave a small depression in the lawn. AG tires on wet lawn leave nice V Shaped ruts.<br>Backed out of the creek, up an incline on wet grass with muddy tires, bucket full of wet clay this weekend, no weights on the rear, turf tires, no issue. Slipped a bit, engaged 4wd, out she came.<br><br>Turf tires are fine. Look at all the rental yards with 855/955s or Kubotas as TLBs. They are almost all on turfs.<br><br>As for loader capacity. Base your decisions on what you can use, not what the book says. Reading spec sheets can be deceiving. The loader on the 790 is capable of 755lbs or so. The loader on the 4200 757lbs (JD Specs- Buying guide)or 1195lbs if you read the 4000 series brochure (Higher lift capacity on the 4300). Either way, you will be hard pressed to put that much weight in the bucket. Certainly not with manure, dirt, clay etc.<br>For 3PtHitch capacity, think about the difference in capacity as what is useable, not what the spec sheet says. A 2600 lb tractor with a 2000 lb lift capacity will almost lift the front wheels off the ground!<br>But do consider the 4200 for the Hydrostatic. And don't buy a compact tractor without 4wd!

Turf vs Ag Tires
Parts and Repair
Replies 9 Post by BigG

Looking for ideas and opinions. I have 2 acres of lawn, that has never been very flat, but that has been getting bumpier over the years. The grass is pretty good, and the grade is fine, but the moles and frost have caused bumps, ruts and holes to develop over the years. How do I smooth it out so that I don't shake myself silly cutting it? Of course I cut too fast, don't we all? But I want to try to smooth it out a bit, as if it's shaking me up, it's loosening bolts and welds as well. I have tried rolling it, but it doesn't seem to make much difference. Maybe I need a bigger roller (2'x4')? <br>So what is the best idea. I have all the toys available, but I don't want to have to tear out the grass and start from scratch, just smooth out the underlying dirt.<br>Ideas?<br>Big G

Help - How do I smooth out my lawn
Other Tractor Brands
Replies 4 Post by BigG

Sorry, David, but I agree with Jon.<br>Have used both on my 75 acre wood lot. I too have ski trails, swampy areas, but most of my land is not level.<br>The skid steer worked fine when things were dry and level, but got stuck easily in the soft stuff, and felt way<br>to unsteady for me on the hilly stuff. Doesn't seem to bother others, but I felt like I was going to tip all the<br>time, and didn't relish the thought of trying to right the machine (rental). Certainly it was heavier built, and<br>could do a lot of work, but it was harder to control, tore up my trails, and didn't meet my needs.<br>On the compact side, I had a backhoe attached, which allowed me to dig and lift, and also to reach out into the <br>soft stuff to place some logs, before venturing in. The bucket was more than capable of handling all the dirt<br>moving requirements I had (sandy loam) and the backhoe gave me the ability to contour my trails where I traversed up<br>a slope. Something that is difficult with the front bucket.<br>Now I can run a bush hog on the compact for the trails, and use it with a center mower to cut my lawn.<br>Resale on tractors seems to be a bit better, although skid steers seem to be improving. Compacts can go to folks<br>like us, estate owners, market gardeners, or mowing contractors. Skid steers are only looked for by contractors<br>and farmers, so the market is smaller. And 3 pth implements are cheaper and more readily available.<br>I'm happy with my decision. Depends on everything you want to do with the machine. Good luck.<br>And take Davids advice. Rent first. You should be able to find both at a good rental yard. The $200 you spend<br>for a days rental may be all you need to spend to know which is right. (Or maybe to do all the work you want to do.<br>You can do a lot of work with either machine in 24 hours)<br>Big G

Tractor or Skid Steer
Other Tractor Brands
Replies 13 Post by BigG