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The KK II 48" tiller is a pretty heavy tiller, a little over 600 lbs I think. That might be right at the capacity of the BX2230 3 pt hitch lift capacity.

I have been looking for a tiller for my subcut. Befco makes a 34" model that offsets, quoted $1300. Woods makes a 40" (GTC40) that Woods recommends for subcuts, quoted $1250 and $1200. Woods also has a 52" model (GTC52), quoted $1289. The Woods rep I spoke to said you could run the 52" model on a subcut but it may struggle on land that has never been tilled before. I believe Bush Hog makes a 36" model for subcuts and cuts, it was the most expensive at $1400.

KK XB Tiller
Operating and Attachments
Replies 12 Post by AngryViking

I recently bought a Woods PHD25 post hole digger. It is specifically designed for a subcompact like a Cub 5234D or a Kubota BX2230. The auger bits are 30" long instead of 42". I have plenty of ground clearance with this auger. I have a 12" bit and I paid $695 for the complete package. There is also a 12" extension and parking stand available for the PHD25.

I also have a Woods 5' standard duty rear blade (RB60) and a Woods 5' landscape rake (LRC60 estate series) that I am very happy with. I also have a King Kutter 6' rear blade for snow removal and a KK 4' standard duty box scraper, both I repainted Cub yellow. They both work great. Last but not least, a KK 24" dirt scoop and a KK carry all.

I paid $9950 for the Cub Cadet 5234D with 60" MMM and bar tires in Sept of 2004.

I tested the JD2210, MF2300 and the Kubota BX2230. I did not like the rocker type hydro peddle of the MF2300 and the Kubota BX2230 or the price and FEL joystick location of the JD2210. I have only looked at the NH, and that was after I bought the Cub 5234D. The 5234D gave me the most comfortable seating position and legroom for my 6'5" 230 lb frame.

I have a very good dealer which is taking care of some problems I have had with my tractor but everything should be as good as new in a few days. I had a tranny problem, friction washer problem on the throttle assembly and minor lift cylinder leak. The complete transmission and lift cylinder are being replaced and the friction washer has been replaced. My dealer and Cub Cadet/MTD have been very good to work with and have taken care of my problems in a very prompt manner.

6284 vs 5234
Cub Cadet
Replies 9 Post by AngryViking

I bought a Cub 5234 Diesel, 4wd, 60"MMM, bar tires today. Delivery is next week...I can't wait!!

New Tractor Purchase
Cub Cadet
Replies 4 Post by AngryViking

Does anyone have a 5000 series with a 60" MMM? If so, how is the cut? Does it handle damp grass without clogging up? How does it handle long grass? I am very interested in purchasing the 5254 or 5234D with a 60" MMM. I presently have a 22hp, 6-speed garden tractor with a 46" deck that cannot handle damp of long grass without clogging and bogging down the engine and makes my lawn look terrible. I want to save time cutting grass and still have a decent looking lawn. I cut just under 3 acres of sloping lawn of varying degrees. <br>
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I did try out a 25hp Grasshopper zero turn with a 61" deck on long damp grass and it did a great job, no clogging or bogging down and the lawn looks great. My problem with the zero turn is that it only cuts grass and slips on slopes. Which I did and it really makes you pucker up because once it starts to slide you can't stop it. I slid going down a when I slowed to make a turn to come back up the hill. <br>
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So, I think a 4 wheel drive sub-compact with a 60" MMM might be the best choice for me as long as it can handle grass that always seems to be damp without clogging and bogging down. The Cub dealer said it won't be a problem, but I don't know the dealer well enough to know if he will say anything to make a sale.<br>
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Any thoughts...

5000 series mowing decks
Cub Cadet
Replies 1 Post by AngryViking

Chuckles...would you please break the cost down per item if you can. Thanks

Prices On Kubota B7510 BX23 BX2230
Kubota Tractors
Replies 38 Post by AngryViking

Hello, I just joined this website today in my quest for as much information I could gather before I buy my first tractor. I have looked at many brands and I think I have it narrowed down to the Kioti CK20 HST, Kubota B7500 and the AGCO ST25. So far from what I have read on this thread is somewhat disturbing regarding the potential service problems I may encounter on a Kioti from my local dealer. I would love to buy a Kioti CK20 HST from my local dealer which is 25 miles from me, nice folks but very high prices. I have received a quote from a dealer 2 states away which was much, much lower. Here they are:

Kioti CK20 HST, Kioti 60"MMM, Kioti FEL, Kioti box scraper with rippers.

local dealer: $16,650
out of state dealer: $13,589

freight and sales tax are a wash

A $3,061 difference!!! So I am supposed to fork over more than 3 grand so I can be first in line for warranty work! If the diff was a few hundred bucks, ok, I'll pay it. But 3 grand ain't worth it to be first in line.

There are 2 other Kioti dealers that are 30 and 33 miles from my home. One of them said he is phasing Kioti out since he picked up the AGCO tractor and compact tractor lines and the other does not keep Kioti tractors in inventory. They are obviously not committed to selling Kioti and I doubt servicing Kioti tractors is very high on their priority list either.

From what I can tell the Kioti looks like a very well made tractor and I think the CK20 HST would be perfect for my 5 acres of lawn, woods and trails (3 acres to mow)but from what I have read here, in this forum, I may have to reconsider the Kioti. I either fork over Kubota money (I got a quote for 15,950 for a B7500, 60"MMM, FEL, box scrapper, hydro from a local kubota dealer) or get a great out of state price on the Kioti and get potentially lousy service from my local Kioti dealer because I didn't fork over another 3 grand to him.

Parts and Service
Kioti Tractors
Replies 43 Post by AngryViking