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 | bobkro32
Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 38 Mill Spring, North Carolina 
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2005-01-29 105200
I'm a newbie, trying to buy what I need, and not much more. I received the comments below from "Jarndt" in response to my question about whether the BX1500 would be capable of meeting my needs (part of a discussion thread beginning on 1/26, and titled "BX1500 Coming Friday.")
From Jarndt:
The 1500 is plenty for your needs. The major differences between the 1500 and the 1830/2230 are:
1. 3-cylinder engines
2. more horsepower/torque
3. 2.3" longer wheelbase (to accomodate the 3-cyl engines)
4. slightly bigger tires
5. ~1" higher ground clearance (due to bigger tires)
6. 60"MMM offered (54" for the 1500)
7. Cruise control
8. Fuel gauge
9. 1.5 gal additional fuel tank capacity
There may be some other differences. Art?
A few things to consider:
1. The 1830 has an older engine design while the 1500 and 2230 have newer model engines. Not necessarily a bad thing. Just another difference between models.
2. The 2230 has about 1-1/2 times more PTO hp than the 1500, but the 1500's smaller tires put a higher percentage of engine power to the ground due to a shorter moment arm. This effectively reduces the power deficit somewhat.
3. There is no appreciable difference in weight between the 1500/1830/2230 models, so the amount of work each can do will be limited to traction vs. engine power in many cases.
IMHO the 2230 (along with similar models from other manufacturers) is overpowered for it's physical size and weight. Other's will differ in opinion. Don't get me wrong, I love horsepower as much as the next guy! It's a VERY capable machine, but it'll make you think that it can do more than it was really designed to do. I have never run out of power with my 1500. It'll mow tall wet grass, push heavy snow uphill, and tow a loaded trailer with ease. I'd say save $1000 and go with the 1500, or step up to a B-series machine if you want more umph. (end of Jarndt post)
Art, from your perspective, are there other important differences that I should consider regarding the BX1500? Any peculiar maintenance problems/procedures? Limitations of attachments? etc.
Your comments would be appreciated, sir.
b
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Join Date: Jan 2000 Posts: 6898 Waterville New York 
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2005-01-30 105264
All right, the first thing I need to know is how much of your six acres you plan to do what with. How big is the smallest width hole you have to drive thru? I figure a man doesn't, nor shouldn't have to spend more then what he needs. For work the faster the better! Sometimes it is fun to be on these tractors for a little time but I really would like to know where you are at. How much for lawn acreage? ....
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2005-01-30 105265
I just read in another post some of the questions I needed answered and I'd say you could use the 1500. The 1830 or 2230 would allow a large deck that would make trimming easier as well as cut down the time to mow the larger piece. It's your time. ....
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Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 38 Mill Spring, North Carolina
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2005-01-31 105279
Art--
Tks for your reply. Mechanically, is the 1500 a reliable machine?
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The 1500's seem to be as relaiable as its larger brothers. The only complaint has been the rougher idle of the two cylinder engine vs the three cylinder. Much of the chassis is identical other then differences from the size of the engine so to a degree it should be all of it's larger brothers and then some for realiability. ....
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Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 38 Mill Spring, North Carolina
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2005-01-31 105301
Art--
So, to summarize:
The 1500 is at least as reliable mechanically as its brethern, although its operating characteristics may not be quite as smooth as its brethern;
The 1500 costs less than its brethern;
The 1500 can perform the same kind of tasks as its brethern, but the implements it uses may be somewhat smaller, thereby requiring a bit more time to accomplish the same task; and
The 1500 may be a bit more maneuverable than its brethern.
I appreciate your (and the others who joined in) comments and candor. Now all I have to do is find the $. I'll check with the wife for a loan.
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Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 351 Northern Virginia
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2005-01-31 105305
Just a couple clarifications...
1. Only at IDLE is the 2-cyl rougher. The 2-cyl runs just as smooth as the 3-cyl engines at operating RPM.
2. The physical size and weight limitations of implements for the BX1830/2230 are identical to the BX1500, however since the 1830/2230 have more PTO horsepower, they are can more easily handle power hungery implements like a bushhog. (the 1500 will handle a 48" or smaller bushhog just fine, you just won't be able to knock down a forest in a single pass.)
If you want to use physically larger implements, you will need to look a the B-series machines. They have a higher lift capacity and can handle full Cat.1 implements (vs. limited Cat.1 for the BX-series).
Hope this helps. Sorry, I can't help you with the $loan$!
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