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 | Peter B.
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1999-11-19 10240
What are the best tires for very muddy soft boggy ground? The less it gets torn up the firmer it will stay. Will I need to switch for winter snow removal?
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| Roger L.
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1999-11-21 10276
Low profile (wide) Turfs. Put light-duty chains on them front and rear for winter. You can leave the chains on for the entire winter season. ....
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| regl
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1999-12-21 11347
The chinese use their tractors in the rice paddies and most come with ag tires. ....
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| markchalkley
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1999-12-21 11376
If you really want to get aggressive with this tire thing, here's the ultimate set-up, as far as I know. I'm not sure which tractor you've got, but I ordered my L4310HST with R4 tires and it came with 17.5L24 Firestone's on the rear and 10-16.5 Titan's on the front. I've done a lot of experimentation and finally settled on 19.5LR24 XM27 Michelin's on the rear (using the same rims), and 12-16.5 OTR's on the front (different rims). The Michelin tires are so good that I'm going to switch the fronts to 11-16 XM27's as soon as I get the chance (read money).
There are a number of reasons why the Michelin's are the best tires I've ever tried. They're radials, and while the Firestone radials I tried were much better than bias ply tires, they weren't as flexible in the sidewalls as the Michelin's. Even with my tractor maxed out at about 11,000 pounds, I can still run the Michelin's at 9 PSI safely. The floatation and traction gains at such low pressures is incredible. Plus, they're more resistant to puncture at lower pressures. Another reason I like the Michelin's a lot better is that they have an R1 tread design that gives much more traction than the square bar R4 tread does, and is a lot deeper as well. So, for me, they give the best of both worlds: traction and floatation. ....
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| tom
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1999-12-22 11382
Sounds good, and I suppose I'll find out very soon that my Firestone turfs won't cut it in the snow.
I know my dad said he stopped having tire problems (3/4 ton) after going to
Michelin. But Lord god am I tired of the Michelin baby, and I haven't even seen
one TV commercial in the last 6 months. Buy my tires. Buy my tires. Goo Goo.
Give me a break. ....
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| markchalkley
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1999-12-22 11389
I suspect Roger is right about the chains on turfs greatly improving your traction in snow (and mud, for that matter). And it's certainly possible that they're even better than what I've got at both floatation and traction, if you used aggressive enough chain. I had turfs once upon a time and hated them for their lack of traction, but it was their lack of durability that kept me from ever ever trying chains on them. Basically, they just weren't at all matched with my needs (I don't mow lawns. Bushhog ditches and fields, yes, lawns, no.) It's an interesting concept, though: Radial turfs with heavy duty construction (I'll check to see if they make them) plain for floatation only and non-mar operation, and aggressive studded chains installed on them when you need traction. It's a lot of work, but perhaps the only way to get optimum levels of both without changing the wheels and tires back and forth (even more work). If somebody tries this, I'd sure appreciate them making a "proper report". ....
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| markchalkley
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1999-12-22 11393
Tom, I forgot one thing: Next time you see the Michelin baby, try to picture the tire he's sitting in as a 19.5LR24 XM27. Then you wouldn't be able to see him at all. That might help... (This could spawn a whole new series of baby jokes, but then the cure might be worse than the disease!) ....
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| Paul
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2000-02-21 13013
How did you get your 4310 to 11,000 lbs? ....
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| MChalkley
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2000-02-21 13021
That's not just machine weight. That's weight including a full load in the front bucket, backhoe on the back, ballast in tires/on wheels, subframes, etc. That's the maximum weight I use when figuring tire requireents, inflation pressures, etc. ....
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