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 09-19-2007, 18:27 Post: 145893
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I am comtemplating building a three point device which would aid in pulling a tractor out of snow or mud. But, before I get this built... If I were to mount a plow on my FEL, will I be able to elevate the plow and keep my back wheels on the ground with out a counter weight on the three point hitch? Or if you do this, what do you use on the back? Wheel weights, suitcases, anything?
I am not really concerned with traction at the moment, but rather balance.






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 09-19-2007, 20:10 Post: 145894
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Chris I think you're putting the cart before the horse. Instead of inevitably planning to get stuck, plan to have traction. That said...

Henry Ford had a system for lifting the entire tractor (2N/9N) for changing tires and/or for widening the stance. It consisted of a fold down "kickstands" front and rear that were connected by chains so tat would pull at the same time when the rear one was connected to the 3pt hitch.

Having been an avid offroader for years, I feel you should be looking for an electric 5000 lb. cap. winch or even 8000. They are about $300-400. Then there are PTO-driven and hydraulic which can be salvaged from wrecker/tow trucks.

As far as an anchor, I made one that was extremely effective. It looked like a single bottom plow crossed with a fishing anchor. The flat, up-side-down shovel-like head had a point to it that would literally drive it 24" below ground and resisted pull-out of about 2o,000 lb.






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 09-19-2007, 21:03 Post: 145896
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Kleinchris,

I don't know how to post a photo here for you.

Please e-mail me and I'll gladly send you a couple of pictures.

For those who do not want to e-mail me, I'll tell you a bit about these things.

The North Dakota State Department of Weights and Measures holds an auction sale every year or so. It was during one of these auctions that I managed to pick up a few scale weights, which had been dinged up enough to cause them to fall outside of acceptable specs. (Dropped and chipped)

These scale weights have handles on them, so that State employees can carry them around and place them on the scales. A 3-point draw-bar slips right through the handles, which allows me to place 5 of these 50lb weights on the 3-point draw-bar.

Total cost = $5.00

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 09-19-2007, 21:19 Post: 145898
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"I am not really concerned with traction at the moment, but rather balance." (From above)

Ive got the traction thing under control. Just trying to get some balance info- but I will check into info.






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 09-19-2007, 21:28 Post: 145899
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How 'bout: a long rope or chain, a cell phone, and a buddy with a phone AND a 4x4.






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 09-19-2007, 21:42 Post: 145900
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Often with front attachments it is neccesary to add rear ballast. My preference is solid weight not liquid as it is just more effective ballast. The rule to a degree is to just help stabilize the tractor and not over load the tractor.
There are combinations of front blades on tractors don't need much if any additional ballast on the rear.






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 09-19-2007, 23:17 Post: 145906
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I'm still a bit puzzled about getting stuck in snow or mud and using the hitch to get yourself out. Am I missing somethin'?

When I'd get my backhoe stuck---really stuck--I'd lay down a steel pipe or beam under the raised bucket, lower the bucket to keep weight off the front wheels then use the hoe to crab-walk myself backward out while easily sliding on the pipe. In other cases where a pipe was not handy, using the rolled bucket to push myself backward works so long as the hole has a still bottom. This also works well for a skid steer loader too.






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 09-20-2007, 06:48 Post: 145907
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Art, do you plow snow with a FEL attachment and if so, what do you use for counterwieght? How does the tractor act with out it? Is the counter weight used for balance or traction?
This device I am making is a tool which will help me get unstruck, and it will be relatively light for a tractor attachment. So, I wont be able to use it on the back end if I need, say, a box blade on the back for counter weight just so I can steer the tractor.






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 09-20-2007, 06:55 Post: 145908
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Earthworks- you have a simple effectie way of getting unstuck. So, go ahead and give me your phone number.






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Ready? Nine. One. One.

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