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 04-15-2004, 11:08 Post: 83206
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 New Holland TC33D Tractor Frame broke in Half

I have a 1999 TC33D New Holland Tractor. The frame broke into while I was moving some brush. Has anyone else had this problem?






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 04-15-2004, 11:19 Post: 83210
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Did the frame break or the clutch bell housing break?






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 04-15-2004, 11:51 Post: 83214
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The case housing right behind where the front end loader connects.






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 04-15-2004, 12:25 Post: 83217
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I would strongly recommend that you get in touch with your area New Holland Technical Rep. and have him or her look at the tractor. I have read other accounts of this occurance but it was with a TC45D. It may have been a defective casting and hopefully NH will stand behind the repairs.

As I recall the bolts pulled through the mount points in the bell housing.






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 04-15-2004, 14:55 Post: 83222
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I remember seeing another case like that, but they discovered that what had happened was the dealer had assigned the youngest apprentice in the shop the job of installing the FEL. Apparently he had been sternly warned to make sure all the bolts were really good and tight.

Be a diligent, if not very bright, worker he had not only wound down every fastener on the FEL with the strongest impact gun in the place, he had 'retorqued' a bunch og bolts the factory had 'left loose'.

He had inadvertantly over-torqued the bolts between the block and the bell housing. The weakened part had broken through very shortly after delivery.

Best of luck.






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 04-15-2004, 16:10 Post: 83233
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The New Holland Technical Rep does not want to look at it. Just said it is out of warranty. The casting is broken in the middle not at bolt holes. I think this must have happened before or New Holland Technical Rep would want to look at it. Must be a weak link.






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 04-16-2004, 07:21 Post: 83275
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Too bad that happened and I'm a bit surprised at NH's response. I don't know if the tractor's history contains use of 3ph hoes, implements larger than recommended or the combination of heavy ballast, big loader weight and fast speeds on rough roads, if not then the situation doesn't say much for NH design. It also doesn't do much for a manufacturer's reputation among potential customers.

It sounds like the tech rep may be a bit deficient in PR skills and maybe you'd receive a better response from corporate CS reps. Warranty lengths are intended to cover the bulk of manufacturing defects. There are stories around where manufacturers have repaired major failures on tractors that were out of warranty just because it's is nearly impossible to say for particular cases if a defect caused it.

Generally it makes good business sense to be a little less in a customer's face since I at this moment may be forming an idea where I'll look for my next tractor--and I am interested in the outcome of this situation. A cynical view is that maybe manufacturers are trying to lever everybody into buying extended warranties and the CS people won't care about customers who don't have them.






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 04-16-2004, 10:19 Post: 83300
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Billy did you ever use a three point hoe on the tractor?






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 04-16-2004, 12:48 Post: 83316
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No! Only used a finish mower.

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 04-17-2004, 04:57 Post: 83389
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I sure think it's worth a call to NH Customer Service just to see how rigid their warranty policy is. There's an 800 number on their site.

My pitch to them would be along the lines that it's a relatively new tractor that received only normal use with implements within specs (I'm assuming the mower is within rate capabilities).

Granted, warranties are to cover manufacturing defects but this is a major failure, and cases are't rotating components. It seems reasonable to expect cases to last indefinitely in normal use and perhaps cases should be given different warranty protection than engines and drive trains or accommodation made for owners who experience premature failure. The situation as described most certainly is an extreme premature failure. You might mention that discussion is continuing on this Board.






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