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 03-14-2001, 12:34 Post: 25502
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I recently bought a house with 10.5 acres. About 5 acres are woods, 2 acres yard around the house and 3.5 large open front yard. I am new to the compact tractor world. My local dealer suggested a Kubota BX2200 with 60" deck. I also have a long asphalt driveway where we get a couple snows each year here in Indiana. He said a rear blade would probably be enough to remove the snow and avoid the cost and pain of putting on and off a front hydralic snow blade. He priced the Bx2200, deck and rear blade for $10,750. Can anyone give me their opinion on what would best fit my needs? Do I need a bigger tractor that would handle a 72" deck? Thanks for your help.






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 03-14-2001, 13:28 Post: 25507
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Gerald, when I bought my 10 acres 6 years ago, I bought a B7100 Kubota, and a year and a half ago, I traded up to a B2710. And I'd had a fair amount of experience in the past with tractors. For what you say you want to do, I'd say the BX2200 is a fine little machine, but think there are two other things you need to consider. First, I wouldn't buy it without the front end loader; that's probably the handiest and most used implement compact tractor owners have. Secondly, think long and hard about what other jobs you might want to do. I think nearly everyone who buys a compact tractor finds lots of things they want to do with it, after they get it, that they didn't think of before buying. Lots of folks trade up in size, very few trade down; however, there are certainly jobs and circumstances in which smaller tractors are better. If you have any slopes to mow, the BX will be more stable than some of the larger machines. Good luck and have fun shopping.






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 03-16-2001, 08:13 Post: 25570
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I would say that you getting a tractor that is to small the BX are nice, but there just glorified garden tractors. You need to move up at least to the B class kubota, 4100 JD or similar sized tractor. 10acres could be a lot of upkeep and the BX is going to be to small in the long run.






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 03-16-2001, 10:25 Post: 25572
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GWS, Please believe me when I say I mean no disrespect. But I have a BX2200 and it is hardly a glorified garden tractor. You show me a garden tractor than can handle a 72" 3pt hitch finisher, or a garden tractor with a FEL than can handle moving, spreading, and leveling 70 ton of 2A modified stone. Or a garden tractor than can excavate and level ground for a detached garage. Or a garden tractor that can dig out a 15" in diameter Douglas Fur. Or a garden tractor than can blast through over a foot of snow and clear a country road with a 72" rear blade not pushing, but throwing snow off the road at full speed. I looked at the JD 4100's and test drove them. And I hate to tell you this, but for the money the BX is every bit the tractor the 4100 is. On the 4100's you feel like you are on a bigger machine, but that's the only difference I found. The same goes for the Boomers. I wouldn't give up my BX on an even swap for a 4100. The fact that the BX is smaller makes it that much more valuable for a homeowner. And, there isn't much weight difference between the 4100 and the BX. So please tell me how the 4100 is THAT much more of a tractor than the BX?






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 03-16-2001, 15:56 Post: 25577
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OK, Steve, I'll bite. This is not personal and I love the BX2200, BUT the 4100 is alot more tractor than a BX2200, maybe not in horsepower, but in specs that matter to me more. In fact, I could argue that the 4100 is closer to a B2710 than a BX2200 is to a 4100. A BX2200D spec'ed brochure weight is 1300 lbs; the 4100 weight is more than 20% greater at 1565 lbs. The B2710 weighs 1740 lbs, which is only 11% more than the 4100. The LA211 loader on a BX2200 is spec'ed at 460 lbs lift capacity at full height, the 4100 with a 410 loader is spec'ed at nearly twice that at 882 lbs, which is identical to the LA401 loader on a B2710. The BX2200 does have a little more hp than a 4100 at the pto (16.7 vs. 16), so it can turn a mower or a tiller about the same. Don't get me wrong, I think the BX2200 is the greatest new tractor design in some time - it is in a category without any competition, but I don't view it in the same light as a 4100. I would not call the BX2200 a glorified garden tractor, maybe a compact compressed to a garden tractor's size. And therein lies its greatness. But in my mind, the loader performance and significant weight difference make the 4100 a different beast. (Food for thought: the weight of a 4100 is about the same as a BX2200 with 2 wives on it, but why would anyone want to carry 2 wives around on their tractor?) BTW, you implied that the BX2200 has it over a 4100 and the small Boomers, but how do you think it compares to a B2100 or a B2400? Good luck with your orange animal!






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 03-18-2001, 14:35 Post: 25623
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Interesting debate. I'd agree, the BX's are awsome, but not in the same class as the 4100. I think Steve Carver probably has more experience with kubota's than any of us, and you can read his take on them at his web site, I think under shopping tips. Since the 4100 is probably in the 7500 weight/power class, it doesn't matter that he only compares the kubota's. As far as the 4100 and the B2710, I've been told that the Kubota weights on the B's and L's are listed without rims and tires, since those vary. JD quotes field weights, not sure what tire/rim combo. Is that wrong? Also, Kubota measures lift at bucket center (front to back), JD lists it at the pivot point. Not sure, but I suspect that skews the numbers some. In any event, the bx2200, JD4100, and B2710 are all great tractors. I'd go larger than the bx2200 for 10 acres, but it depends on what needs to be done.
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 03-18-2001, 17:34 Post: 25626
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Todd, thanks for reminding me of something I forgot to add on my last post. I DO NOT consider the 4100 in the same league with a 2710, not even close. I don't know about the weight specification on the Kubota, but I believe you are correct on the loader lift capacity specs. The other misleading thing about loader lift capacity specs is that they are usually at full lift height. I've looked at loader lift capacity vs. height graphs and the capacity tails off considerably as you near full lift height. So in this case the lift capacities would be more fairly compared at some lower standard height (1 meter?) because the 2710/401LA can lift higher than the 4100/410, which in turn lifts higher than the BX2200/LA211. I believe these three machines are significantly different in capabilities; I was just playing the devil's advocate. And Steve, I can certainly understand how the BX2200 would have a higher value for you than the 4100 or the small Boomers. We all have different needs and presumably try to spend our money where we get the highest value. My tractor is worth more to me than a bigger tractor at the same price because the bigger size becomes a liability in my application. But that is a subjective view based on my needs, and a someone with different needs will probably have an entirely different value equation.






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 04-04-2001, 02:57 Post: 26292
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I will put my BX up against a JD 4100 anyday also. What fools people are the small tires. The BX is a real tractor at 1300 lbs bare and works like any other Kubota tractor. I demoed a 7500 and I have used a 4100. The BX is their equal. They have large loader capacity but the BX mows better, is more stable and more manuverable and does everything else they do just as well. Oh, Kubota will be offering a backhoe and some other things for the BX soon. Glorified garden tractor my a---! J,RV






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 04-04-2001, 02:58 Post: 26293
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I will put my BX up against a JD 4100 anyday also. What fools people are the small tires. The BX is a real tractor at 1300 lbs bare and works like any other Kubota tractor. I demoed a 7500 and I have used a 4100. The BX is their equal. They have large loader capacity but the BX mows better, is more stable and more manuverable and does everything else they do just as well. Oh, Kubota will be offering a backhoe and some other things for the BX soon. Glorified garden tractor my a---! J,RV






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 04-04-2001, 03:05 Post: 26294
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Sorry for the double post, do not know what happened, computer went blank and whamo--two posts--sorry. I have had my BX now more than a year with just over 100 hours and like the other fellow have found it to be a capable machine. Mine has moved boulders, blasted through ice walls, pulls my 48 inch box blade, moved 40 tons of gravel last weekend, built a huge retaining wall, mows my 6 acres and makes my neighbors JD455 look silly--it is a glorified GT but the Kubota BX is a scaled down utility tractor with plenty of muscle. Again sorry for the double post--it was an accident I guess. J, RV






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