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 09-07-2011, 22:34 Post: 180265
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Ok so i have worked most all the bugs outta this tractor i think. i have a 254 agracat i believe it is a 2001 to 2003 year model. Laughing out loud dont know for sure the seller was not truthful with pretty much anything. anyway the one thing i see for sure is it need a clutch. slips when it is in higher range gears 1st seems to be ok but 2nd and 3rd is a no go on uneven ground. works super great in lower range gears. I believe the pilot shaft seal is leaking alittle and thus got hydro oil on the clutch causing the slip. I need the clutch and the pilot seal. guessing on the pilot seal but more than likely what it is. is there a sure fire way of knowing its a 8 or 9 inch clutch and do you guys knows what seal the pilot seal is as far as ordering.
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 09-07-2011, 23:41 Post: 180266
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Where do you see oil? Because I don't know of any seals related to the clutchpack. Pilot bearing yes, but I'm hard pressed to identify a pilot seal. There's a seal at the rear of the engine to keep the engine oil forward, and another at the front of the mid-connect to keep the gear oil back. But none per se in the bellhousing.

It does however sound like your the drive disc is slipping. But before getting any parts, you should actually confirm if it's caused by an oil leak of some kind. Because if the clutchpack is otherwise dry, in some cases the slippage can be adjusted out.

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 09-09-2011, 23:04 Post: 180296
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OK what i meant by a pilot seal is the seal around the pilot shaft coming from the tranny. I at first did think it was the rear seal on the engine, but i removed the starter and ran a screwdriver down in the bell to see if in fact oil was in there and it was about an inch of oil. i removed the bottom bolt on the loader tower to remove the oil and left it out to see how bad the leak was. and its not bad at all really, i have ran it and watched the hole where the bolt is gone and the leak it almost none. i assume its just collected in the bell for the last several years. anyway the oil smells like hydro oil not engine oil. i was assuming there was a pilot shaft seal from the tranny holding in the fluid. also when i drained the oil the clutch over the last few days has become alot better and not slipping as much but it still needs a replacement clutch just to get a clean one in there...... oil free






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 09-09-2011, 23:20 Post: 180298
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A lot of folks don't know there's a weep hole at the bottom of the bell housing. The diameter is pretty small though, I used to have to clean mine out at least twice a year.

And whereas it's convenient to replace the whole clutchpack, you may only have to replace your friction discs (and degrease the pressure plates). Plus it's cheaper. Give a shout if I can be of any help.

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 09-09-2011, 23:28 Post: 180299
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OK I did see the weep hole right above the drive shaft going to the front. but nothing was coming outta it so i thought it was just a casting hole of some kind and didnt go all the way through. thanks i will clean it out and replace the bolt. so do you get what i am saying about the pilot shaft seal? there is one right? do you sell parts for the tractor??
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 09-10-2011, 06:14 Post: 180300
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I'm not in the business of selling spare parts. But I have had 4 Chinese tractors over the years, and still have plenty of spares on the shelf that stayed behind when I sold or traded them. So whereas I'm not a dealer, I occasionally have a part or two on the shelf that might help with a topic under discussion.

And yes, there are three seals and a gasket actually. There's a FB35x55x12mm oil seal between the outer shaft and the pass through bracket, a formed gasket (paper I think) between the bracket and the housing, and a pair of 25x2.65mm O-rings sealing the gap between the nested shafts.

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 09-11-2011, 01:29 Post: 180302
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wow. ok then. i was thinking it was alittle simpler than that. thought there was just one shaft coming from the tranny to the clutch. i am guessing i will have to break it down to see which one it is huh? do you know of a good supplier of parts?






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 09-11-2011, 07:18 Post: 180303
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Well, I'm guessing you already know that AgraCat went out of business about 8-10 years ago. But the model you have is just a rebadged Jinma (JM254), so any reputable Jinma dealer should be able to help you with those parts. But before you contact one, write down the info from the tractor data plate and the engine data plate.

But those particular seals are generic, matter of fact I may even have them in my spares box. Since I don't own any Chinese tractors any more, they're just sorta setting there gathering dust. Or if you're interested, I can easily put together a set of metric oil seals, a set of metric grease seals, and a set of metric O-rings out of my sparees. However any tractor dealer (or NAPA) should carry the individual seals/O-rings, and the gasket is simple enough to cut by hand from bulk stock.

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 09-11-2011, 22:49 Post: 180314
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Ok. you hav been alot of help. Yeah i seen they went outts business and had seen somewhere about it being the same as a jm254, but you saying it confirms it. thank you so much. i have notice again today since i got the oil outta the bell housing the clutch is working muchhhhhhhhhhhh better. something about that oil on a clutch disc Laughing out loud.
anyway yeah i might ask you to do that if i break it apart and cant find what i am needing at the ol NAPA store. I already changed the oil in it and crossed a napa filter for the oil filter and getting ready to do the same with the fuel filter. man you have been a big help thats for sure and i thank you.
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 09-12-2011, 00:22 Post: 180315
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wanna ask another question...... i see alot of different people using different things in their trannys. i use hydrolic oil..... some use 80/90..... some use engine oil........... i mean holy cow. which would you say????






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