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Tom,A little story on wisdom..I sold the old Yamaha 350 (1987 era)..still like new (under 1000 miles)..felt nakkid no wheels..lol..looked and looked at a zillion..ran across an add in our Ohio trader...2005 Honda rancher or something of that sort 4x4 and all ..for GET THIS..$4.500.00 WOW..called up dealer in Michigan..was the price in the add correct?..yeppers!..yea buddy order me one RIGHT NOW !!!!took credit app..recalled me back in 20 mins..approved...Sumptin still not right???..asked sales person to call me back with purchase agreement # and vin # of wheeler..(this hill jack is getting smarter) and also reconfirm on the price ...Hour later sales manager calls me up and tells me congrats on my new Honda..whopie..asks if there is anything else I need...ummmmm how about the agreement # and vin #..(no bait n switch for this good ole boy)Also reconfirm the purchase price..Kinda quiet for about 30 seconds then he says ummmmmmmmm about $ 5,700.00..Holey crap needless to say I hit the roof!!!CANCEL RIGHT NOW !!!!! He then says that he gets so many cancels every day...just can`t seem to understand it???Wifey comes home and I tell her anout the happenings..We both use a magnifing glass on the add...some kinda mumbo jumbo 1/16th lettering ,black on a black dark brown cammo add...could barely make out the word dealer...Needless to say then i`m really P.O.ed..E mailed B.B.B. ....Processed a complant against the company..B.B.B. sent a reply..complant processed...also seems like i`m not the only complant..no wonder..How in the hell they could justify a $1,200.00 mark up..handleing and dealer prep..comeon give me a break..Long story short month went by and I get a phone call from the company MANAGER stating that they were pulling the add and re wording it with either the full price or the wording prep/handleing in large block letters..asked me to drive to Mich and he would give me a super deal ( ya rite)..told him that I bought a used local Polaris 600 sportsman..have a good day...moral of the story is allways ask what the OUT OF THE DOOR PRICE IS !!!!Hope this ditty helps some one...Sid

Dumb dealers
Utility Vehicles UTV/ATV
Replies 15 Post by tiltbed

bryn,you just may be in luck....I read in their web site (either Futon or Branson) make the higher horse power 4x4 tractors for John Deere....Who sells them not to sure of...might be a green dealer if so then the price will be up there...Sid

biggest horsepower
Jinma Farmpro Agracat Nortrac
Replies 9 Post by tiltbed

I bought a 404 about a year ago....so far no problems either major or minor...#1..yes the remotes are live...#2..I have a Koker loader on mine,It is plumbed off the hyd pump...makeing it live also...#3..haven`t had any luck xing filter #`s..haven`t figgured out how to read chineese yet..lol....Sid

Attention FOTON 404 owners
Jinma Farmpro Agracat Nortrac
Replies 2 Post by tiltbed

The 404's Are beeing sold through Rural King,I bought mine for a base price of $7999.99...I believe the 25 through 35 HP tractors that Northern Hydraulics sell are Fotons,although some say Jimmas..They are the spitting image of mine.As far as the filters go..I just changed my fluids with filters from Rual King,they didn`t even know what to charge me for them??I am trying how to change to domestic filters,but haven`t figured how to deciper chinese yet.Going to see if I can find either WIX or a BALDWIN web site and ship them a email..I`ll keep you posted...Sid

FOTON TRACTORS
Jinma Farmpro Agracat Nortrac
Replies 21 Post by tiltbed

ROTFLMAO!!!!!Geeze guys I really needed this..THANKS.But hey we need to get serious about this.As we all know the BIG 3 DON`T build CUTS..right?..So would the reindeer be named...satchs,koti,jimma,yammar ect and the lead raindeer would be tractor KING (get it KING?)and what about the wise men?...Bellarus..or mebe,just mebe Mahindras?..All in all it`s great that we can find some humor in these sad and trying times..And to all have a merry and safe CHRISTMAS (can`t say holliday yet..sue me for being politically incorrect)..Sid

Official Tractor Point Manger Scene
Just For Fun Off Topic
Replies 35 Post by tiltbed

Geeze now you guys have gone and done it!I gotta wipe the tears from my eyes (nostalgia wise)I have probably built bought and sold more street rods,muscle cars than some folks have achs and pains..lmao....But i`ll just hit on the 3 best...not including the street rods (save them for another post).1...1962 Ford Galixy XL convertable (406..405 HP..4 speed..tri power)..2..1963 Impala convertable.( 409 ..425 HP NASCAR special edition motor..Z L 11(mebe?)dual quads ,4 spd,posi.very FAST )bawwwwwwwwl sorry, sniff, geeze wish i still had that one....1964 Comet Cyclone..one of the fastest street cars on the west side of cleveland in the early 60`s..and yes it was street raced a bit..lol..((1965 COBRA 289...350+ HP,4 spd,411 posi)..excuse me as i must get another box of kleenex...Sid

Favorite Cars From the Past
Just For Fun Off Topic
Replies 26 Post by tiltbed

I bought a 404 (40hp 4wd) tractor king from Rural King in march of 2005..price with a koker fel,6' tiller,6' brush hog,phd with a 9& 12" augers was about $14,000.I signed up for Rural King`s credit card and recieved 10% off the purchase price...which amounted to a free 6' tiller.Also 1 year intrest free..so I will pay it off before the year is up..intrest is aprox 22%..The tractor is made by Futon,The engine might be a cummings 3 cyl clone.I believe Futon also makes the bigger 4x4 tractors for John Deer..something like 125 HP..But don`t hold me to that fact.I have over 45 hrs on my tractor so far...NO problems to date.Fit is pretty good..Finish is very thin..enough wax might keep the paint on for a while...lol..Main thing is that you have to install a in line or block heater on it,as it is very tempermental cold starting...But with a heater it pops right off...hope this help you some...Sid

Rural King Tractors
Jinma Farmpro Agracat Nortrac
Replies 6 Post by tiltbed