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I finally got the starter off and tried to get the solenoid apart. It had water in it, actually it was frozen water. I melted it with a torch and applied power to the terminals and it now spins the motor. I'll take it to a shop to see if they can check it, clean it, repair it,and maybe water proof it (if it's good, I don't want to put a bad one back on).<br>
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I'll keep you posted. Thanks to all.<br>
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Update 12/26<br>
I had the starter looked at and the guy couldn't find any problems. Brushes good, no burnt or dark spots, no indication of arcing. He did lube the shaft but that's about it. Put it back in and so far it's started twice just like it should. He charged my $120 but I guess if that fixes the problem it's money well spent. Happy New Year to all, we're expecting another 10 to 12 inches of snow by NYEve.

Is starter dead or
Jinma Farmpro Agracat Nortrac
Replies 9 Post by kalpia

Actually this is a pretty good discussion, even though it seems to have wandered a bit from my original inquiry.<br>
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I, as a self-professed tractor neophyte, appreciate knowing what dealers are good or not so good and hearing it here gives it a certain value. We all work for a living and expect to get paid, I suspect Tommy is no different and I don't mind supporting someone who helps out without the expectation (but maybe the hope) of making a sale. I also agree that it's important to keep blatant self promotion to a minimum.<br>
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I know there's a dealer in WI but I've never seen him/her here so I trust deal with those that are here. And for that I am very grateful to ALL. A big thank you to Tractorpoint, all of their hard working mods, and the guys/gals that so generously give of their time.<br>
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On a side note let me say that the Agracat is working and steering great again.

Hydraulic steering line
Jinma Farmpro Agracat Nortrac
Replies 34 Post by kalpia

My PS runs from the center of the front axel to the left inside tire; parrelell with the axel. Fortunately it looks very much like it does in the manual (unlike the hydraulic filter system). Yes it looks like it's mating to a short rod. Thanks for the assist.

Agracat 2920 Jinma 254
Jinma Farmpro Agracat Nortrac
Replies 6 Post by kalpia

My filter was more of a paper cartridge type, didn't seen any metal screen. If you check the picture site (listed earlier and the "More pictues" and album at the top) you'll see where the filter was located and a picture of the filter itself. Is this where yours is located? Is there a metal filter inside that I missed?

Thanks

Agracat 2920 suction filter location
Jinma Farmpro Agracat Nortrac
Replies 12 Post by kalpia

Thanks to all. I got the parts from Tommy (affordable) and got them in, took about two hours so not to bad. Added the oil and so far no more leaks.

A couple of minor points: There are two gaskets that I didn't order that would have been nice to have. One for the top under the grease cert (#22 on parts page) and a spacer gasket under that arm foot (#7). There's also one for the bottom (#55?) that I took off that didn't need to be removed but I didn't know that until it was too late. Other than that it wasn't to bad. Total for parts - about $20.

Agracat 2920 RF axel wheel
Jinma Farmpro Agracat Nortrac
Replies 19 Post by kalpia

Thanks, I'm starting a simple list of items & fluids that can be used and purchased locally (when possible). I don't know if anyone has such a list but when it's more complete I'll make it available to all. I might not be relevent for all but it sounds like much of these things are common for many of the CUTs out there.

Hydraulic issues with my Jinma
Jinma Farmpro Agracat Nortrac
Replies 16 Post by kalpia

What a great discussion, thanks to all. One of the features of a forum like this is that there is a tendency to only mention problems or issues, and that is as it should be.

We don't talk about all of the planes that DIDN'T crash or all of the kids that DIDN'T get killed in a drive-by so it's only fitting that we don't talk about all of the Chinese tractors that have worked well over many hundreds of hours; but I suspect that there are many of them. Many of the guys/gals on here are by nature very good with their hands and like to tinker/repair their stuff and a few like me are not as adept. That's OK, cause the guys here a fantastic when it comes to helping...and that is, to me, almost as important as having a dealer in your area plus any good mechanic will work on these.

As mentioned, if your business model does not allow for any down time then buy as good as you can afford from the closest dealer, but if you can stand to be down for a week or two (and thanks to guys like Chip or Harry or Greg just about any part can be to you in a week) and you don't mind getting your hands dirty then I think these basic Chinese tractors are a good deal.

As far as 'be American buy American' that's impossible, we live in a global economy and you CAN NOT help but support some other country's economy no matter what you buy. There's a reason Walmart and Best Buy are the biggest - they're the cheapest and most of it comes from Asia or other developing countries.

That's my 4 cents worth, and again this is a good discussion; it clears the air on many misunderstood points of ownership of these little tractors.

Jinma Tractors Are They Worth It
Jinma Farmpro Agracat Nortrac
Replies 37 Post by kalpia

Definitely worth checking but it'll all have to wait for the weather to get to at least 20F, just to cold for it now.

Thanks to all and enjoy the Holidays.

AgraCat 2920 Jinma 254
Jinma Farmpro Agracat Nortrac
Replies 15 Post by kalpia

Most battery charges have a charge needle to indicate the current state of the battery. Typically weak batteries will show a lot of deflection early on and then gradually decrease as the battery is charged. Depending on charger, it will put anywhere from +16 to trickle in the battery depending on the battery's charge. If you think the battery won't hold a charge you can test it with a Hydrometer to load meter. If you just have a battery charge and want to know if it's outputing a voltage put a meter (DMM) across the leads, set the meter to read DC volts.

Battery Chargers
Yanmar Tractors
Replies 6 Post by kalpia

I have to agree with greg, when it comes to guys (greg, murf, & others that I can't name) that know there beans about these tractors, these guys are tops. I'm dumb as a red brick and they're just as patient and helpful as can be. Also when I need parts these are the guys I like to deal with.

Ask your question(s) and you'll get quick correct answers.

Nor-trac lubricants
Jinma Farmpro Agracat Nortrac
Replies 7 Post by kalpia

Thanks Cando, I've signed up. It looks like it could be an interesting and informative read.

Kalpia

Hydraulics Preventative Maintenance Class
Parts and Repair
Replies 6 Post by kalpia

I have the Agracat 2920 (Jinma 254 or FarmPro 25/4wd). I too have a couple of paddocks that I work with but I don't stack RB's. It's a nice little CUT and does everything I need. Less than 1/2 the price of the Green; yes they are some sacrifices made but for $10K I can live with'm. In three years I've had <$300 done on my Aggie by a professional mechanic (including parts). At this rate I figure my break even point is 2103.

2 Jinma or not 2 Jimna
Jinma Farmpro Agracat Nortrac
Replies 9 Post by kalpia

I bought my Agracat from a guy in the TC but live in Western WI, just east of Hudson. I have a deisel mechanic do all my work, he's good, reasonable, and lives on a farm (which helps). Check the out lying areas for a mechanic that works on farm equipment, these are basic machines so most diesel mechanics should be able to. I think there is a guy in Beldenville, WI that also works on them but I don't name or number.

Tractor repair and or parts
Jinma Farmpro Agracat Nortrac
Replies 6 Post by kalpia

Ranchhand - I thought of that but I'm not sure which one it is. I've always just used the eng/dis lever so maybe I'll have to fiddle around a bit and see if I can find it. My neighbot did borrow it a month ago to plow some snow so maybe he changed it.
Thanks

PTO
Jinma Farmpro Agracat Nortrac
Replies 12 Post by kalpia

I bought a 200W magnetic heater for my Agracat 2920 (254) last week and I'm returning it and getting a tank heater. The mag heater just isn't make for the WI winters but I was using it to help with starting not the hydraulic pump. It might work just great there, I do suffer the same problem that you do in that regard but I think I'll switch to a lighter fluid to help correct that problem. I don't think PA gets quite as cold or as cold for as long as we do so I might be a good $35 investment. I like the idea of the heat lamp so I might give that a try also, I only use the tractor to clear snow in the winter so it can be a used as needed. Good luck and keep us posted on how you do.

Best placement of magnetic heater
Jinma Farmpro Agracat Nortrac
Replies 9 Post by kalpia

Thanks to all and I think you're right about the magnetic heater, and I suspect the glue pads are about the same. WI is just to cold for them. I kept the package so I think I'll trade it for a block heater, messier to put in but I think better in the long run. I'll check the plugs/fuses this weekend. I'll keep you all posted.

Glow plugs
Jinma Farmpro Agracat Nortrac
Replies 14 Post by kalpia

I've got an Agracat 2920 (2003) and it's the same as a JM 254. It's a nice little rig with plenty of power and easy to work with and on. I have a FEL and blade on mine and it has power to spare. There are several sites that might have manuals in pdf and downloadable for free, check Johns tractor site, it's great. If all else fails I might be able to scan mine and post it for you. Others here might be able to give you some advice too, they're mighty helpful folks.

/K

Agracat 2920
Jinma Farmpro Agracat Nortrac
Replies 7 Post by kalpia

I agree with greg. If you are not familiar with tractors or mechanically inclided (like me) an assembled tractor is the way to go. I bought my AgraCat (JM254) fully assembled with FEL for less than $8500US delivered, good deals are out there just keep looking. Once (if) you get one the guys/gals on this forum are great and will to help with anything they can.

Maybe in the right place this time
Jinma Farmpro Agracat Nortrac
Replies 15 Post by kalpia

I finally got the new fuel injector in (OK, nephew did it) but it's in and all seems to be working great. It turned out that the fuel pump was NOT the problem but it was worth a try. <br>
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I thought that timing would be an issue but it wasn't we simply marked the gears and key locations were carefull when removing the old injector and adjusted and aligned the key in the new injector with the slot on the gear and "boom goes the dynamite", she fired right up and sounded good. They may have been luck but I'd rather by lucky then good. Thanks to all for your generous help, assistance, and good will.

BIG thanks to all
Jinma Farmpro Agracat Nortrac
Replies 1 Post by kalpia

Thanks Greg, I think I'll have to suck it up and replace the entire injector. I don't want to spend the time doing the delivery pump on the off chance that it will fix the problem, might just as well bite the bullet on this.

Injector issue
Jinma Farmpro Agracat Nortrac
Replies 7 Post by kalpia