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I can see no suitable spring connection point on the knotter. Everything close to the counter rotates. The loop of springy wire on the counter arm is very close to but not touching the flat steel cam that rotates once when knotting each bail. The wire loop is about 1/8" higher and 1/8" to the side of the rim of the cam.

The cam is a flat steel plate perhaps 6" in diameter gripped near the rotating shaft by what appear to be spring-loaded friction pads in contact with the inner part of the plate. I suspect one reason for that part is to provide some friction drag. However, I can see no other function for the outer circumference of this part to be shaped like a cam unless it is to drive the counter.

Does anyone know of a web site that provides manuals or service details or pictures of old hay bailers?

JKJ in East TN

hay bail counter question
Massey Ferguson Tractors
Replies 5 Post by jkjordan

I've had good luck keeping the deer out of my garden plot (150'x60'). The fence is 4' welded wire for the groundhogs and such topped about 8" above with one strand of electric wire. I have deer in the field every day around the garden but I've never found one or evidence of one inside.

You will never keep deer from jumping a 5' fence (I've seen them jump an 8' fence from a standing start) so I did what one book recommended - educate the deer. Before the garden gets tasty put a dab of peanut butter at various spots on the wire. I put it every 5-10' or so. The deer will smell the peanut butter, try a taste, and learn to keep away. Either smooth or extra crunchy.

JKJ in East TN

Do electric fences keep out deer
Parts and Repair
Replies 11 Post by jkjordan

>the dealer told my oldest son and me
>how easy to put on/take off it was

I have the Rhino 75 on a Kubota 3830. The only problem I've had with mounting it is when I put the thing in the old barn once on relatively soft dirt. It was a comedy of errors. First, the stabilizers sank into the ground and wouldn't lift the frame enough. I put 2x12s under for support. It lifted enough but shifted the thing sideways a bit. Repeat several times. Now it's too far to one side so I can't back the tractor straight over it. Turn the tractor around and use the loader to slide the whole thing a bit away from the wall. Repeat at least once. Level the 2x12s better to keep it from sliding. Get frustrated. Pound stakes into the ground to keep it from sliding. Finally get it attached.

Next time I parked it on hard gravel. That worked much better but it did tend to slide back when trying to seat it in the subframe. I think it would be far better to park it on concrete with some way to keep it from sliding back. Even better would be to get some more practice. I've only had the thing on and off about three times.

The backhoe itself is wonderful. Planted lots of trees, dug out some BIG poplar/pine/locust stumps, buried a maple log for spalting, dug a pit for hog roasting, etc. I haven't tried digging any ditches yet.

JKJ

Rhino 75
Loaders Back Hoes
Replies 12 Post by jkjordan

For towing my L3830 I bought an old beat-up '75 1-ton flat-bed 350 chevy dualie for $800, put some wheels & tires on it, rebuilt the 4bbl, and the granny gear pulls the steepest hill. It's not pretty, no AC or radio and the driver door doesn't quite close, but I suspect no one will try to steal it. As a bonus, I use the 12' bed far more than ever I imagined hauling lumber, fence panels, etc.

JKJ

How to match Truck to Trailer Load
Kubota Tractors
Replies 101 Post by jkjordan

>How much slope was that?
>How can you tell the angle or degree of a slope?

I didn't measure the slope, but it was more than I would have expected. Slopes scare me more than a little bit so I am very conservative.

Aside: Be aware that there are things you can do with the tractor can suddenly make the tractor roll over even on a "reasonable" slope, so the slope itself isn't everything. Things like dropping a downslope wheel into a depression, running over a stick/stump/rock/hump with a upslope wheel, having soil suddenly give way, lifting or lowering the loader bucket while applying force to just once side, lifting a load high in the bucket, sliding on wet or loose ground, catching or bumping some part of the tractor on a tree, etc. Be way careful. Always have the ROPS in place and locked, wear the seatbelt even in the parking lot, use wheel weights or filled tires, space the wheels out as far as practical, go real slow. And even going straight up/down a slope can be bad if you have a big load or traction problems. For example, I was drive straight up a slope this weekend in 4wd (pulling some dirt with the yard box) when the front wheels lost traction, the front end started moving sideways, and the slope was suddenly more sideways than I intended.

http://www.andrew.cmu.edu/user/kb13/ans_hillsides.htm

You can measure the slope visually with a protractor and stick or piece of cardboard/paper, or use a hand-held or tractor-mounted inclinometer. But that still doesn't tell you the angle it will roll over, even in perfect conditions and perfect traction. For my lawn mower I picked one side up to get a feel for the angle it would take, but I wouldn't try that with my tractor even if I had the means to lift it. Be way careful.

(PS: I may be more conservative than some, but when I got my tractor I read everything I could find about how people have died on a tractor and tried to learn as much as possible from them. For example, even driving through the woods can be a big hazard if you bump a tree and disloge a "widowmaker" over your head, or if you turn around and a wimpy little sapling you knocked over on the way in snakes up the frame and impails you through the groin - I read about that one in a wood-harvesting book. Another one: my neighbor's grandfather was killed when wasps began stinging him and in his panic he jumped off the tractor and got caught under the wheel - now I bushhog in the summer with long sleves, hat, and netting)

JKJ

Where is the parking brake on my Kubota
Kubota Tractors
Replies 6 Post by jkjordan

My 3830 did that when it was new - dripping hydrolic fluid from a plate underneath. All the bolts were tight. The dealer pulled and resealed the plate at the 50 hr service and replaced the fluid I'd lost at no charge.

JKJ

New Kubota Dripping
Kubota Tractors
Replies 5 Post by jkjordan

My manual says to take the blades off and weigh them when sharpening, etc, and make sure they weigh the same or the cutter can be seriously out of balance. But if it was OK before and suddenly started vibrating it almost has to be something else.

JKJ

Shakey Brush Cutter
Mowers Field and Finish
Replies 7 Post by jkjordan

There are different models - I'd get the one with two bit holders that will do much larger drill bits.

I've had several drill sharpeners and the Drill Dr is the best.

JKJ

Are Drill Doctors any good
Just For Fun Off Topic
Replies 10 Post by jkjordan

>Most importantly, DON'T RUSH, a gopher hole or rock
>on the side of a hill can be the difference between
>finishing the job and finishing you.

Something else to think about on a hill and a reason to work very slowly: watch out when moving the loader - the force can torque the entire tractor if the downhill side of the bucket catches while raising the bucket or the uphill side comes down on a stump or rock.

I did the former ONCE, and the tractor was even mostly aimed up and down the hill instead of sideways. I don't think I came close to flipping the tractor but it scared me enough to lose a few years. I wouldn't even try using the loader when sideways on more than an very very very gentle slope.

When this happened to me, I was curling the bucket when it caught and I was nearly caught off guard - if I hadn't been working VERY slowly I might have jerked the control stick the wrong way in a panic and might not be here now to write about it.

JKJ

Opinions on tractor stability
John Deere Tractors
Replies 13 Post by jkjordan

>See www.topandtilt.com.

Does anyone have a phone number for Integration Engineering? This is the site I emailed a request for information and got no response. I tried their web form today and got what appeared to be an error on their end. I tried directory assistance and they don't seem exist in Harrisburg IL!

A phone number, my kingdom for a phone number. (I don't actually have a kingdom, sorry)

JKJ

Hydraulic Side Link
Kubota Tractors
Replies 23 Post by jkjordan

You might look around for a used van with a lift already installed. My friend with an electric chair has had a string of these and a has a old one rusting in his back yard at the moment. (I don't think that one is worth having unless you are a mechanic in search of a project, but there may be some that are.)

BTW, he's had several lifts in standard vans that used cables to raise and lower a platform (like "Ironsides"), but he likes the one he has now better - it slides out of the lowered floor in a minivan, and the van itself tilts if needed.

JKJ

wheelchair lift
Home Improvement
Replies 6 Post by jkjordan

>Of course the reason for providing the data in the
>manner given was to make a point.

I think most people miss the point - it's a joke. Note the last lines: "Please alert your friends to this alarming threat. We must ban doctors before this gets out of hand." In fact, the first versions I saw were from "humor" mailing lists.

Most versions of this include this statement as well: "Statistics on lawyers were withheld for fear that the shock would cause people to seek medical aid."

Interestingly, all versions I've seen, even those from years ago, used exactly the same numbers, making the data itself suspect or suggesting that the numbers are seriously outdated. If, as suggested the numbers are "accurate and easily checked" why did no one ever check and update them? But considering that it's just a joke, who cares.

Being a joke, the numbers may even be made up and completely untrue, but from all evidence no one EVER checks!

But just as on this forum, I've seen it stir emotions and sometimes serious gun/anti-gun controversy. Some people even pass this on blindly with commentary meant to inflame.

Sadly, this type of tripe shows no sign of ever stopping. Note this web page on the gun/doctor subject from "Break the Chain - Stop junk e-mail and misinformation": http://www.breakthechain.org/exclusives/drguns.html

The site even has an interesting list of more internet nonsense:
http://www.breakthechain.org/jk.html

Note: even if we pretend the gun/doctor statistics are serious and the numbers are accurate, to put this into perspective a more useful list would include other accidental deaths such as from automobile accidents. Or (ack!) how about tractor deaths per tractor owner?

JKJ

guns and doctors urgent
Just For Fun Off Topic
Replies 33 Post by jkjordan

>Now if I can just get my neighbor to empty the water out
>of his aluminum boat (it's a mosquito factory).

Mark,

Sneak over there and toss in a Mosquito Dunk (Home Depot, coop, etc) or something. Floats on the water and slowly releases a biological agent fatal to the larvae but harmless to everything else, or so they claim.

JKJ

Mosquito Traps
Just For Fun Off Topic
Replies 22 Post by jkjordan

I also use the yellow plastic cans made for diesel with drip-proof spouts. (Got some at Northern Tool, about $14) Fairly painless - 5 gal is not too heavy to lift, the plastic lip rests on the tank filler neck and opens the spring-loaded valve.

The flow shuts off automatically if you leave it until the tank is full or when you pull the spout out. No drips, no vent caps to mess with. Now if someone around here would just start selling diesel fuel without the road tax...

JKJ

How does every one fuel their tractor There must be a better way
Kubota Tractors
Replies 26 Post by jkjordan

Just squeaked by: 54y and 58c.

JKJ

What is your self-worth
Just For Fun Off Topic
Replies 34 Post by jkjordan

You might want to get a copy of this excellent book. Much advice and ways to avoid big mistakes:

http://www.horsekeeping.com/horse_books/Horsekeeping_on_a_Small_Acreage.htm

JKJ

Putting stalls in barn
Parts and Repair
Replies 9 Post by jkjordan

>both manufactures have a 1year warrantee.

I think the issue is with the warranty on the tractor, not on the loader.

There are two Kubota dealers near here. One sells Woods loaders and claims there is no problem with the warranty and promises to take care of any problem at the dealer. They will order a Kubota loader if the customer really wants one.

The other dealer sells only Kubota loaders and claims that if a non-Kubota loader is mounted, Kubota may not warranty problems that could be attributed to the loader, such as cracked frame. They will not mount a non-Kubota loader on a new tractor.

I decided to go with the second dealer for some other reasons and bought the a 3830 with the LA723 loader. Both have worked well.

JKJ

Woods vs Kubota Loaders
Loaders Back Hoes
Replies 23 Post by jkjordan

>wiring harness...

I asked my dealer and he told me about the plug but not about the wiring harness. I ordered a service manual a week or so ago so if it's there I can probably look it up. Thanks.

JKJ

L3830HST reveiw
Kubota Tractors
Replies 11 Post by jkjordan

I may be misusing the equipment, but I've actually pulled out a lot of small stumps with the box blade. I usually just try pushing and pulling in the center from different angles, and if that doesn't work I use the edge to dig and one tooth to break some roots. If that doesn't work I wait until the next time I've attached the backhoe.

JKJ

Best implement for the job
Operating and Attachments
Replies 14 Post by jkjordan

I bought a trailer (as in tractor/trailer) instead of a storage container and use 1/2 of it to store my Kubota 3830 with ROPS, loader, and rear attachment. It is 45' long x 8' wide x 9.5' ceiling. No room to work but plenty for storage. About $1800 delivered - instant building. The dealer here in TN has dozens to choose from.

I got an aluminum trailer instead of steel to avoid rust problems and put it on five or six PT 4x4s resting on gravel. They remove the wheels so it is ground-level access. The floor is laminated hardwood on steel beams and plenty strong enough for the tractor. Locks securely and keeps the tractor out of the weather.

BTW, I don't think the standard steel shipping containers are tall enough to take the tractor with the ROPS raised.

JKJ

Tractor Shed Designs Seen any Good Ones
Barns Pole Barns
Replies 15 Post by jkjordan