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Short answer is yes, they are basically an identical tractor to the old Ford 2000-4000 units. Only difference are the brakes and injection pump (smoother operation). The FarmTrac 35 which is basically a Ford 2000 starts around $9000 with a 3 year warranty.

Based on old Ford design
Long
Replies 5 Post by Nate

Thanks for the info, I will give the dealer a call. I am a salesmanager at a busy auto dealer and the rebate is either to the dealer or the customer. There is no in between. Now this may different in the tractor business. It would be nice to grab a $400 rebate considering from whats on this board for pricing I got raped. I paid $14,000 with a 62 inch deck and loader, tax included.

400 rebate on 2210 tractor
John Deere Tractors
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Thanks for the info. Im in Mass maybe thats why I got spanked on the price. Its a nice rigg. Just what I needed. No less and no more.

2210 price check
John Deere Tractors
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I have a 4500 with the 48 hoe.At times the hoe will pull the machine around,but this can be avoided by keeping more weight in the bucket to keep the legs on the ground.I don't flip the pads and I get along fine.Weld all you want on the bottom but remember that the hoe WILL pull your tractor around and it is better to have it so than to have it anchored so something else will break.Even larger machines get this so don't worry.

JD 47 48 Back Hoe Stabilizer Question
Loaders Back Hoes
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The 4200 through 4600 JDs are constructed totally different from the Kubota B series. The B series are made of frame rails with components (engine, transmission, etc.) bolted to them. If light weight is desireable, then the advantage is light weight. The disadvantage is a frame that may not be quite as well suited to heavier jobs like loader use. The JD 4200-4600 are constructed like the New Holland Boomers and 1320-1920 tractors and Kubota L series in that the frame is really just a series of castings (engine block, clutch housing, transmission, etc) bolted together. That's what contributes all the weight. Advantages include greater strength for loader work & traction. Disadvantages include more time consuming access for certain repair jobs such as clutch repacement. Neither tractor is better or worse than the other from the weight differences. It's just a matter of your primary use for the machine. More weight (all other things being equal) provides greater traction, and less weight (all other things being equal) is less likely to cause turf damage. I mowed for years with a Ford 1720 (2700 lbs w/o mower) and caused minimal turf damage. My current tractor (B2400) causes almost no turf damage at all, but pushing large amounts of snow or dirt requires careful planning due to the lower weight and traction.

JD4200 vs Kubota 2710 The weight difference
John Deere Tractors
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