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I stand corrected! Now I can say that I have seen �Break-in oil�! But, is this
really a �product� or a way for JD to make more money. I would really
like to see this stuff go into an independent lab and have it analyzed. I would
imagine that it is a low detergent oil with a lot of detergents and dispersents
in it . Nothin� too scary about that.
BTW: I was going to run my Kioti today�.but�..I remembered that I have
SMWF oil in it. That oil can only be run on Sunday ,Monday, Wednesday,
and Friday! What to do. What to do? Either I change oil to TTS oil ,or I wait
until tomorrow. I wonder if someone makes a MTWTFSS oil? Then you
could run your tractor every day.
And as far as Earthwrks comment about �know-it-all arrogance�, I�m not
arrogant, I�m just stating facts:
1. I�ve run tractors since I was 7 years old.
2. I�ve used synthetic lubes since 1982.
3. I have run many engines without break-in oil.
4. My stuff seems to last forever.
5. I retired early.
6. I ran a small truck 40,000 miles on synthetic oil without oil changes.
(Three oil changes in 120,000 miles)
7. I�m known by a lot of people in my area as a guy who can make
cars and equipment last.
7. I was testing oil in my shop in 1985 and the experiment went bad, blew
up and I ended up in the emergency room. It is funny now , but I learned
some neat facts about motor oil.
These statements are not Urban Legends are hearsay. They are facts.
We are trying to learn something here in this forum.
I�m sorry if I ruffled anyone�s feathers.
I think Kwschumm said it all:
"It would be nice if we could buy a few identical engines and test the theory, but that takes time and money. Unless someone can point to a study that has already been done using oil analysis and pre and post break-in performance measurements we're left with manufacturer recommendations, anecdotes and personal experience."
I sent a lot of oil out for analysis back in the 80's.
Oil analysis will give you a good idea about what is going
on inside an engine, but it is time consuming and it can get expensive. You have to send samples several times of
the same engine to really know what is going on. I found
a cam lobe on a friend's truck about to go flat through
oil analysis. If done correctly, it works.

Luckyfly.

Kioti DK40 Review -- 95 Hours and no problems
Kioti Tractors
Replies 53 Post by Luckyfly

My DK 40 SE is a "Hoss"! I don't know about picking up round bales, because I don't know what they weigh,
but my Kioti loader picked up 1500 pounds with ease .....at idle! The engine was running as slow as it
would operate. It picked it up really fast as if it had no load at all. I had the backhoe mounted on the back
so I don't know if it would tip forward. Most people around here, who move a lot of hay, use the 3 point and the loader
so that you have weight front and rear.
My tractor seems to have enough power to tear something up. I really watch what I'm doing when I have it loaded.
It has a lot power to the hydraulics and to the wheels.
I live in Texas so I have only started it at about 29 degrees, but it fired right up. I would imagine it would start in cold
about as well as any. After 35 years in the excavation business, I found that synthetic oil helps an engine start
in cold weather as it flows better at low temperatures. I'm running Amsoil 5w-40 Synthetic Diesel oil.
The Kubota tractors are excellent and a lot of people are using them in the area (Central Texas) where I live.
You probably would not go wrong buying a Kubota. They were one of the tractors I checked out before I bought
my Kioti. They are well made and seem to last a long time. They were my second choice.
I found the Kioti to be a very heavy constructed, easy to operate piece of equipment. It is well designed and I really
like all of the features. I liked it the day I brought it home, and after 38 hours I think I've "Fallin' in Love"!
It sure saves me a lot of work. With one tractor I can mow, backhoe, have a front loader or forklift, plow, disc, blade,
or dig post holes just by changing attachments. It is very handy.
Also, I really like my dealer. I bought it from Cosper Tractor in Burleson, Texas. They are a small, family owned business
and they have been very fair with me. I'm 100% happy with the tractor and the dealer.

DK40SE opinions wanted
Kioti Tractors
Replies 4 Post by Luckyfly

After owning my Kioti for 5 months I decided to install
the quick-connect forks.To remove the bucket and install
the forks takes just a few minutes. Talk about easy!
My son stopped by and helped me move a lot of heavy
building material in my shop. This really saves a lot of back breaking work. It will pick up 1500+ pounds with
the engine at idle. I've never operated a fork lift before but I got everything moved with no problems. I'm sure that a "real forklift" would be easier to operate, but the
Kioti worked perfectly for what I needed done. I only use forks a few times a year, so it would not be wise
for me to buy a machine that would only do one thing.
When we finished we removed the forks and put the bucket
back one.
I have about 33 hours on the tractor with no problems.
The more I use it, the more I love it!

Old dude loves new Kioti DK40 tractor
Kioti Tractors
Replies 36 Post by Luckyfly

I own a Ford 2000 purchased in 1965, and a Ford 3400
purchased in 1969. I have been running Amsoil in each since
1983. They have gasoline engines and I change the oil and
filter every 2 years. Both tractors have seen better days,
but the engines run like new and use no oil. Neither has had the heads removed. These engines have thousands of hours.
I'm going to purchase a new compact tractor next month and
you can bet it will be running on synthetic oil of some
type. I will change the motor and hydraulic oil to synthetic as soon as it breaks in.
I'm retired now, but I was in the backhoe business for
35 years. I found out real fast that synthetic lubes made
my trucks,cars and tractors last for decades.
Do synthetics cost more? Not the way I figure it.
It is very expensive to rebuild tractors. My friends in the
excavation business would trade tractors about every 5 to
8 years. This costs $$$$$$$$$$!
One of my tractors is 42 years old!
I retired when I was 55 years old. Having equipment that
lasted helped me do this.

Amsoil Oil do you use it
Parts and Repair
Replies 31 Post by Luckyfly