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jd60kid, My name is Derek, Im 14,I live in Illinois, and I have a 790. THIS is the machine to buy. I have a mowing buisness and I mow fields with the 790 and use it on my grandpa's farm. For me its got to be the green also. Good luck with buying. Hope you get a 790.

JOHN DEERE 790 vs farm pro 2430 HELP PLEASE
John Deere Tractors
Replies 14 Post by Derek

I'm going with R4's and they seem to be a good balance between traction and lawncare to me. They don't do much damage to the lawn (remember to disengage 4wd) but still allow you to wallow in the mud like a big pig :) Also...they look cool!

tc25 now or tc33 later
New Holland Tractors
Replies 14 Post by Derek

When I got mine last year, the prices for the 4100 and the 21D were basically identical. I ended up getting the Boomer and have no regrets. The advantages and disadvantages I saw were as follows: The JD apparently had an axle problem (which I think has been addressed since then) that caused massive scuffing of the lawn. The JD has a better pedal layout if you plan on using differential braking, which I never do. On the other hand, I like the Boomer's Hydro pedals better because instead of moving your foot right or left to separate pedals to go forward or back, you can rock your foot forward or back to go in the desired direction. The Boomer came with folding ROPS - among other bells and whistles - which I REALLY like (low clearance parking shed). This is really handy as well when going under low tree branches and things like that. If you ever operate at night, the lights on the Boomer are great, I know many Kubota owners complain about weak lights...dunno about the JD. The JD loader takes about 2 minutes to take on/off and takes no tools, the Boomer takes about 4 minutes with a crescent wrench for two bolts. If you ever forsee the need for a backhoe, I don't believe the 4100 has that capability, whereas the TC21D does. That's about all I can tell ya about the hard comparisons. I think the power and capabilities of both of them are about equal. You just have to decide based on the small differences, and of course, the price. I like the control layouts, instruments, seat, and looks of the Boomer better myself. But that's a personal preference.

JD4100HST vs NH21D
John Deere Tractors
Replies 10 Post by Derek

I don't have the same model as you, but i have a 21hp tractor with a rather narrow track (about the same as the bucket I believe.) The tractor only weighs 1500lbs, plus another 600 for the bucket, so I just keep the box blade on the back for ballast and stability when using the loader. It seems to work fine. There may be something I'm missing here, but if you're on level ground and proceeding cautiously, you should probably be ok without changing the track width all the time.

Tire spacing
Massey Ferguson Tractors
Replies 4 Post by Derek

I have the same sized machine as you, a TC21D, and like you the only thing I wish was more powerful about it is the loader. But it's not that the loader won't do the job, it just takes longer than it might with more power. I can live with that.

I'm not sure about the JD and Kubota series', but in the Boomer line once you move up passed 21hp, the physical size and weight of the machines increase dramatically. While this may be good for earthmoving and landscaping type work, it makes finish mowing more cumbersome and more destructive to the lawn. I settled on the 21 because it seemed like the "do it all" type tractor I wanted, which sounds like what you thought when you got yours. Since you've already got the seeding out of the way, and merely need to let your lawn mature until you can use the JD on it, it sounds like you want to sell it and buy 2 more machines just because you like the infield mowing pattern of Wrigley. I agree, it looks good. And if I were willing to spend 4 times as much time mowing, I'd use my little JD push mower to do it...looks great!

But one thing you should keep in mind if you decide to get the 0 radius, is that your tractor will get even more down time than it does already. I don't know if you have horses or something that allows you to use your tractor alot, but I'd get quite a guilt complex going if I had mine sitting for weeks at a time between projects. As it is, I can at least count on firing it up a couple hours per week for mowing. If I got a different mower, I'd have to come up with a new landscaping project every couple of weeks just to justify keeping it.

I was in a situation similar to yours last spring when I got it, and logged over 100hrs on it during the summer putting in a back yard and doing a lot of landscaping. But now that's over and the tractor is primarily a lawnmower, brushcutter, and landscaping maintenance machine for my 5 acres. But that's ok because I am still able to use it quite a bit. But be careful, because if you go get another mower you might have to eventually start explaining to the little lady why the new TC29 you have sitting out there never gets used.

Very confused and in need of help
Operating and Attachments
Replies 11 Post by Derek

I have a 21D that I got last spring and have put about 125hrs on it using a 5ft rear mount mower, 5ft bush hog, and 5ft box blade in addition to the loader. It handles the attachments easily but can get a little bogged down with a full load in the box scraper. All in all though, it has enough power for these implements and the loader works great as well. In fact, you almost have to have an attachment on when doing loader work, and have the loader on when doing box blade work, just for ballast. The 21 is physically quite a bit smaller than the 25d, but to me this is an advantage when using it for mowing (lawns). It is lighter too, so it's more maneuverable and does less turf damage. If I weren't gonna be doing any mowing, I'd probably go with a 25 or bigger. But this machine is my lawn mower as well. As for price, you're price sounds about right.

TC18 TC21
New Holland Tractors
Replies 7 Post by Derek

I have a 21D and pull a rear mount 60" behind it. I'd have to go with Donald on this one. The 60" works great for me, but 72" might be a bit much. If you want a 6 footer, I'd go with at least a 25D.

Derek

Which Boomer will handle a 6 finish mower
New Holland Tractors
Replies 4 Post by Derek

I paid 14.5k with loader for a TC21D in late spring. Got about 100hrs on it now and love it. It's quite a workhorse. I'm in Oregon, in case the region makes a price difference.

tc21
New Holland Tractors
Replies 5 Post by Derek

About a month ago I got a 21D w/hydro, 4x4, and 7106 bucket for $14.5k (no tax). I spent <br>another 2.5k on a 5' box blade, 5' 3-pt finish mower, and a 5' rotary cutter (all LandPride)<br>...for a total of 17k. I'm in Oregon...no sales tax here.<br>I've already put over 60 hours on the machine. LOVE IT! No complaints.

Price check on NH 21D
New Holland Tractors
Replies 7 Post by Derek

I was told 6 weeks to get a 4100 w/hydro. This, combined with the lack of folding ROPS, led me to get a TC21D instead just a couple weeks ago.

DEERE 4000 Series Availability amp Delivery Dates
John Deere Tractors
Replies 34 Post by Derek

I've got a 21hp TC21D with a 5' box blade. Same type of soil you mentioned. It works great for me. Sometimes bogs down a little, but a slight nudge up on the 3pt lift does the trick. If I had it to do again, I'd stay with the 5' over the 4'.

How much box blade for 21hp
Snowblowers / Snow Plows
Replies 9 Post by Derek

I bought a 4300 last month with sync reverser and have had a couple of problems<br>with it. The shift linkage was very ponderous so I took it back to the dealer for repair. He said the linkage was rubbing. He also noticed that the 3 pt. when raised all the way up was causing the engine to drop a 100 rpm or so. Turns out the hydraulics were in some kind of overpressure situation at full lift. So he ordered a new rockshaft valve kit and apparently got tired of srewing with it and supposedly replaced the whole assembly. Well, the problem is still there and now I've got a sticky valve that sometimes doesn't let the 3 pt. drop. I've had to pull the seat and tap the valve with a hammer (4 times in the last 3 hours). Overall it's a pretty nice machine, but you'd expect to get power windows and air conditioning for the kind of money these things cost. Compared with a car, content and technology wise, tractors are way over priced. Also, the owners manual says the tractor was built by Yanmar, while all the sales literature led you to believe they are made in the USA by Deere. Does anyone know the full story?

Any problems With JD4300 Sycro-Reverser Models
John Deere Tractors
Replies 5 Post by Derek

Chas and Scott, I'd be real curious to know what the damages were/are for your tractors as I just bought a 4300 w/ 430 and sync shuttle for $17,500. I to had heard about shortages, but my dealer put the package together in less than a week.

JD loader shortages
John Deere Tractors
Replies 9 Post by Derek

I've been shopping and have narrowed it down to a JD 4300 or a New Holland TC33. Am definitely leaning toward the Deere but it's more money, $17,200 w/ bucket and reverse sync tranny vs. $16,500 on the NH (including $1,200 in freight). With the New Holland it would be worth my while to buy from Ritchie Tractors in Tennessee and ship to Washington State. Does the same scenario play out with Deere dealers? Are there Deere dealers that can beat everyone else's prices to the point that it is worth paying freight to buy it from them? Also, how come there are no tractor brokers like there is with cars and/or internet buying services? Anyways, your thoughts or comments on how to get the best pricing would be appreciated and I am not shy about getting service at a dealer that did not sell me the machine. BTW, I can get a Mitsubishi Cub Cadet 1760 (26hp) for a couple of grand less, any thoughts on how this would stack up against the Deere and NH machines of 33 hp?

How best to buy a Deere
John Deere Tractors
Replies 11 Post by Derek

I'm interested if the price is right...<br>...how much?

For Sale- Kubota 4672 Backhoe
Kubota Tractors
Replies 3 Post by Derek