4310 exhaust stack
CraigC
Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 83 Hebron, IN |
2004-02-19 77270
Just wondering if anybody has tried John Deere's verticle exhaust stack? Dealer told me it would blow smoke right in your face, I told him tractors have stacks and they don't wear turf tires.
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kwschumm
Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 5764 NW Oregon Pics |
2004-02-19 77271
Haven't tried it but I'm having a hard time imagining why someone would want to. If nothing else it hurts forward visibility. What are the advantages? ....
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DK35vince
Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 689 Western,Pa. |
2004-02-19 77272
Why would you want a vertical stack ?
Tree limbs hit it, water more likely to enter from rain, and in my opinion the noise is more noticable than the underhood design when mowing for long periods. ....
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DK35vince
Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 689 Western,Pa. |
2004-02-19 77273
Just thought of one other thing I don't like about the vertical stack.
Most of the scratchs on the hood of my JD 850 are from hitting the stack when flipping the hood open. ....
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harvey
Join Date: Sep 2000 Posts: 1550 Moravia, NY Pics |
2004-02-19 77274
The vertical stack is the only way to go. When mowing or working into the wind I always got some exaust odor from that stupid pipe under the front.
I do very rarely now get a whiff. There is no noticeable noise increase.
Yup tree limbs do touch it. Big deal!
I can only go 13-14 mph flat out so I'm not too concerned about something running out in front of me and missing it.
Yup if water gets down it, it will slobber but that washes off.
The hardest part was cutting the hole in the hood.
And BTW my little baby tractor wears turfs, it works in the woods, it works on wet fields, it works in snow and ice, it loads gravel, it runs my BH, it works every where. Oh yeah and it still mows 2 acres on Sunday afternoon.
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Chief
Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 4297 Southwest MiddleTennessee Pics |
2004-02-19 77282
Harey, I think the issue of water going down the vertical stack is not so much the mess it makes when you start it up but it enough water is allowed to go down the stack; it can enter the engine cylinder through a potentially open exhaust valve and can have dissasterous consequences such as bending a connecting rod or worse. In machinery that sets for long periods, this can also freeze or make the engine become stuck. There should be a flapper on the end of the exhaust stack pipe to prevent water from entering. If one is not installed; I STRONG recommend you install one. ....
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shortmagnum
Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 848 Wisconsin Pics |
2004-02-19 77284
My only experience with stacks came when my kids were toddlers. At Christmas time I would put the empty wrapping paper tube down their shirts from the neck opening down their back and into their diapers. Then they could proudly crawl or walk around with a vertical exhaust that stuck up about a foot above their heads. Unfortunately it didn't solve the odor under the hood problem.
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CraigC
Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 83 Hebron, IN |
2004-02-19 77286
I don't see the water problem being an issue at all because my tractor will never sit outside. I don't see much of a vision issue from a 2" pipe and as far as your hood rubbing your muffler when you open or close the hood, ther must be something wrong. ....
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Billy
Join Date: Oct 1999 Posts: 975 Southeast Oklahoma Pics |
2004-02-19 77288
Craig,
This is why JD offers the vertical stack option. Some people prefer them. It's really a personal choice.
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DK35vince
Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 689 Western,Pa. |
2004-02-19 77291
ITs not the limbs hitting the vertical stack the bothers me, its the ones that hit the stack, bow over then come back and snap me in the face that I don't like.
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harvey
Join Date: Sep 2000 Posts: 1550 Moravia, NY Pics |
2004-02-19 77324
I'd have to look but me thinks there is a small drain hole at the bottom of the bend. I would take over a quart of water to get past the bend. The turn out covers most of it anyway. It has always been a long standing practice to put a can over the exaust if they sit out for a period of time.
Mine sits in by the wood stove all winter and in the cool side of the shop during the summer. ....
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CraigC
Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 83 Hebron, IN |
2004-02-19 77354
Harvey could you tell me how high the top of the stack is? Will it go under a 7 foot door? ....
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harvey
Join Date: Sep 2000 Posts: 1550 Moravia, NY Pics |
2004-02-20 77359
CraigC it's 79.5" or 6'7.5".
I was thinking on reasons why I like it and remembered when mowing the pointy down one stirred the old dead grass and got that started moving. Also stacking snow would send a cloud of snow in the air.
As I said the toughest part of this is cutting the hood (mental thing for me). JD sent good directions I measured 6 or more times. I had masking tape on both sides of hood to mark it. I tried it wasn't sure.
HINT! There is a little rounded dip in the engine side cover. GUESS why it's there :-). If you are centered above it and each side after you measure and mark you are golden.
I used a hi speed "HI SPEED" air powered recropiating body panel saw. Practiced on a couple of coffee cans then changed blade and made the cut.
My email is with this post if you have a concern e me I'll send you a photo of what the cut looks like or what ever you need. ....
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CraigC
Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 83 Hebron, IN |
2004-02-20 77367
Know what you mean about cutting the hood, was thinking about letting dealer install this when they put the mower and loader on. If they screw up they will have to fix it. Thanks. ....
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