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 01-31-2005, 16:22 Post: 105323
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I'm 74 years old and I've noticed that I get Older each Day.I've always wanted to be able to weld and I think a welder is very Skilled Ocupation and by golly I still want to weld before I die.
I'm going to buy me a Used Mig welder if I can find one. I want to be able to weld steel up to 1/4 inch. The high School classes are not interested in teaching an old man so I'm going to try it on my own. I will need a lot of advice and I hope you guys will help me out!
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 01-31-2005, 17:30 Post: 105327
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Well Bob!
It’s never to late to add any tool to the toy list……in my opinion……. I feel the more tools you have the more creative you can become. So go for it.






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 01-31-2005, 18:51 Post: 105331
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Good for you. Welding has been one of the most satisfying hobbies I've had...also one of the most aggravating. But the more you practice, the more good times you have.

I found it easier to learn on a stick welder and move to the MIG, as the MIG requires more attention to arc length and setting the machine up. Either way, it is really all about what you get used to.

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 01-31-2005, 20:25 Post: 105334
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Bill makes a good point, but I think with Fluxcore wire, wire feed welding isn't a bad place to start. There is some decent equipment available at reasonable prices. If you only need to weld 1/4" steel, a 130amp welder will get it done with some practice, patience, and a little bit of pre-heat.

I hope I still have your enthusiasm in the future. It's great to see people keep on tractoring.






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 01-31-2005, 21:01 Post: 105337
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I believe 130 amp running flux core wire will weld 1/4 inch very well without having to preheat.






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 01-31-2005, 21:37 Post: 105342
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It probably will weld 1/4" pretty well, but we pre-heat everything to at least 100 degrees to drive any moisture away from the weld joint before welding. Embedded moisture draws a lot of energy from the arc, and can cause pitting of the weld. AWS requires pre-heat for any weld when the temperature falls below 35 degrees.






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 02-01-2005, 03:22 Post: 105346
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For general all around back yard non professional welding (old school farm and homeowner repairs on old rusty dirty somewhat cleaned up and new metal) nothing quite beats a good old stick with 6011 or 6013/7018.

Professional welding requires many different applications and setups. We do lots of fabrication with wire and lots of field repairs on different alloys with stick, currently the welders carry at least 10 different types of rod covering old dirty steel to the hi-chromes, mageneziums and cast.

Please do not misunderstand the above statement. The guys in the yard have years of experience welding and fixing stuff and neither one even begins to consider themselves a professional welder. But they can weld upside down, uphill, down hill and any other position you can think of with the steadiest of hand and their work looks awesome with plenty of penatration.

But the 6011 wins out almost every time for a good old down and dirty repair.

A buzz box with ac/dc 230 amps ac side and stick is the best way to learn good solid basic welding skills. Just my humble opnion.






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 02-01-2005, 07:30 Post: 105349
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Bob
is there a Technical college near you. If so, they may have a welding program and I'm sure you could talk an introdutory class with them. If not, it is just going to take some practice.






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"A buzz box with ac/dc 230 amps ac side and stick is the best way to learn good solid basic welding skills. Just my humble opnion."

I'm with Harvey here. It's the simplest and least expensive way to get good results right away.

It's great that you're learning a new skill. Old dogs can learn new tricks. Plus, every time you gain a new skill it helps to keep the brain wired properly. Have fun!
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If I have as much fun welding as I have looking for a used Welder, I'm really getting to act like a Welder when I Shop.
I know where there is a Lincoln 3200 looks new, What should I be able to buy one for? I will never be able to have anyone cut their price as I want to be fair! Some Idea what to pay would be great






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