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 10-09-2004, 15:17 Post: 97986
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Anybody haul your tractor on a truck instead of a tailer?






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 10-09-2004, 20:39 Post: 98000
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If you want to buy a 18' rollback truck to just haul your BX23, it will work great, no, excellent. Not many of us can justify the $$$ to do this. That's why I bought a truck and trailer. Why haul around the trailer space when you don't need it?

I don't use my truck as a daily driver any more (86 VW Diesel Jetta for that!), but I could. You really can't use a 25' long, 20K GVW flatbed as a daily driver.






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 10-09-2004, 22:44 Post: 98006
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1*. Why haul around the trailer space when you don't need it?

2*I don't use my truck as a daily driver any more (86 VW Diesel Jetta for that!), but I could. You really can't use a 25' long, 20K GVW flatbed as a daily driver.


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1*Well this is another way of looking at it.
But my way of looking at it is why manhandle 2 vehicles around hauling the tractor if you can do it with just one? Why haul around the unused truck space?
2*IF I bought a trailer I would have to buy a truck to pull it with.
This truck would not be my daily driver either (I have 4 import pick ups for that)

What I'm looking at in my case is If I can buy a truck to haul the tractor somewhere at or near the cost of buying both a trailer and a tow vehicle then why fool with the trailer?








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 10-10-2004, 18:39 Post: 98034
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If you can justify the $$$, go for it. I need to have my vehicles wear multiple hats.






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 10-10-2004, 19:24 Post: 98037
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I need to have my vehicles wear multiple hats.
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And I don''t need multiple vehicles wearing the same hats.

Laughing out loud
Seems you and I are in opposite situations sorta.






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 10-12-2004, 07:41 Post: 98159
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There are multiple reasons why you don't want to use a big flatbed truck to haul your tractor unless it fits your specific needs.
1. A flatbed truck is much higher than a trailer. Usually you need a permanent ramp at points "A" & "B" to load or unload. Sometimes backing into a shallow ditch works and then use ramps. The angle is too steep to try to use foldable ramps.
2. A flatbed truck with as much weight hauling capacity as a double or triple axle trailer is more like a 450/550 or 4500 or 5500 series truck. This means lots of diesel and expensive repair costs.
3. Depending on the state that you live in, the motor vehicle/secretary of state usually makes you have a CDL to drive dualies. Some states is starts with 350/3500 other with 450/4500.
4. Unless you are a farmer, license plates are very expensive for big flatbeds in most states.
5. For only about $3,200.00, I got a new triple axle flatbed trailer than can haul about 10,000 lbs. I can hook it up when it is needed.
6. For only another $3,500.00, I also got a new tandem axle dump trailer than can haul about 10,000 lbs. I can hook it up when it is needed.
7. Many times, both types of trailers are needed. Granted with a flatbed truck you can haul the dump trailer behind. I usually can get a friend to follow with his pickup.






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 10-12-2004, 10:09 Post: 98174
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Unless you travel a long way, or fairly often, with that tractor you will probably find that for just a fraction of the cost of insurance & depreciation alone on your own tilt-bed tow truck you could hire one to take where you want to go and not have the hassle of maintaining your own truck, repairs, etc.

Several people who have CUT's near me do this, the local towing company has a deal with several of the area dealerships, if they can move the CUT as time allows (fill-in work) they do it for a LOT less than normal rates. The tow truck gets work when they normally wouldn't have it, and the customer gets a cheap move.

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 10-12-2004, 10:21 Post: 98175
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5. For only about $3,200.00, I got a new triple axle flatbed trailer than can haul about 10,000 lbs. I can hook it up when it is needed.
6. For only another $3,500.00, I also got a new tandem axle dump trailer than can haul about 10,000 lbs. I can hook it up when it is needed.
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What do you tow these with?
My problem is I don't have a tow vehicle either.






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 10-12-2004, 10:38 Post: 98178
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LBrown, maybe I'm missing something here, you have a BX23, the tractor itself weighs 1500#, even with a few extra implements included, the weight probably wouldn't be more than about 3k #.

Almost any V6 powered import truck will pull that and a trailer, provided you have brakes, sway-control and an equalizing hitch and drove with moderation it probably wouldn't even be a bad drive.

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 10-12-2004, 12:26 Post: 98187
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Like Murf says, you don't need a big truck to haul a BX. I would think a 1/2 ton truck would be enough with a tandem 14 or 16ft trailer. Sixteen feet or more would be my recommendation since usually you find more "bigger" uses after you have it. I would recommend a small V-8 over a 6. A 1/2 ton truck empty on the highway with V-8 should yield about 16-18mpg. I get about 14-15 with a 3/4 ton on the highway. Somewhere, however I thought you also had either a bush hog or BH that would add some more weight and require extra bed length. I use a F250 Super Duty with 5.4 gas. I don't tow great distances, usually under 20 miles each way and it is on flat ground. My longer treks are about 100 miles each way to the condo or hunting property. Love my truck but chances are will go diesel next time.

Murf has a point about renting a hauling unit when it is needed. I like my own stuff and use it when I want to and don't like to work around anyone elses schedule. I'm usually short on time. If you have a tilt box on a truck that helps with regard to the loading and unloading headaches of a regular truck.

When I was a kid we used a sod ramp that butted up against a vertical wall of 4 railroad ties. Sometimes when we loaded a tractor the sod was wet and the tires would spin on the way up. We would get a running start and would have to stop just in time before crashing through the front of the box. The farm truck was a '55 chevy and the IH 400 (3-4 bottom plow rated) full size farm tractor just fit on it. A fast stop would get everything swaying. It seemed like a long way up their when you were in the seat. But again I was only about 10-12 years old. Was impressionable at that age. I also was scared to drive the combine on the road in those days. The road was crowned and narrow and the ditch was deep. When meeting a car on the road you had to drop the front tire of the combine part way down the ditch. When coming back out you had to be careful since the rear wheels of a combine steer and go further down the ditch on that way out. It didn't have power steering and for the life of me I couldn't figure out the shifting pattern so I would always have to stop and hold the clutch in until my dad took it out of gear. Now I understand the shift pattern was 2 vertical H's. If you turned the combine off, half the time it wouldn't restart without a jump. So much for JD 55 combines with Hercules engines. They sucked. Sorry, got off on a tangent!






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