24 inches behind the lift points : Size Tractor Needed  -- General Tractor Discussion Forum and Review 24 inches behind the lift points : Size Tractor Needed -- General Tractor Discussion Forum

  parts   |   manuals   |   discussion   |   photos   |   podcast   |   reviews   |   specs   |   dealers   |   classifieds   |   contact   |   faq   |   myProfile   |   home          Login Now | Sign Up


FAQ:   What is a tractor?

Forum Index

Kubota Tractors
  Kubota News
  Kubota Price
  Kubota Review
John Deere Tractors
  John Deere News
  John Deere Price
  John Deere Review
New Holland Tractors
  New Holland Tractor Price
  New Holland Tractor Revie
Other Tractor Brands
  Articulated Tractors
  Belarus
  Bobcat Tractors
  Case
  Cub Cadet
  Hinomoto
  Kioti Tractor
  Long
  Massey Ferguson
  Mitsubishi
  Other Tractor Brands
  Other Tractor News
  Shibaura
  Yanmar Tractors
Lawn and Garden Tractors
  Craftsman
  Cub Cadet Garden
  John Deere Garden
  Kubota Lawn Garden
  Other Garden Tractors
  Simplicity
  Toro Wheelhorse
  Ventrac Lawn Tractors
Antique Tractors
  Allis Chalmers
  Case David Brown
  Farmall IHC
  Ford
  Ford 9N 2N 8N
  Fordson
  Harry Ferguson
  John Deere Older
  Massey-Harris Ferguson
  Minneapolis Moline
  Oliver Cletrac Cockshutt
  Restoration
  Tractor Pulling
Tractor Attachments Implements 3ph
  Back Hoe
  Field Mowers Brush Cutter
  Grooming Mowers Finish Mo
  Loaders
  Snowblowers / Snow Plows
  Tillers and Ploughs
  Tractor Implements
  Trenchers
  Wood Chippers 3PH
Tractor Maintenance
  Diesel Fuel Lubrication E
  Tractor Engine Repair Reb
  Tractor Tires
Utility ATV
  All Terrain Vehicles
  John Deere Gator
  Mule Utility Vehicles
General Tractor
  Farming Ranching Agricult
  Photo Contest
  Size Tractor Needed
  Tractor Projects
  Tractor Safety
  Welding
Chinese Tractors
  Jinma Farmpro Agracat
  NorTrac Tractors
  Other Chinese Tractors
Cars
  All Brands
  Audi VW
  BMW
  Car Tires and Maintenance
  Chrysler
  Exotic, Sports, Racing
  Ford Cars
  General Motors
  Honda
  Hyundai
  Mercedes
  News
  Nissan
  Subaru
  SUV and Trucks
  Toyota Cars
Trucks Trailers
  Chevy Pickup Trucks
  Dodge Pickup Trucks
  Ford Pickup Trucks
  Toyota Pickup Trucks
  Chevy Pickup Trucks
  Dodge Pickup Trucks
  Ford Pickup Trucks
  Toyota Pickup Trucks
Home Building
  Alternate Electric Energy
  Barns Pole Barns
  Buying Ranch Farm Acreage
  Carpentry
  Contractors
  Electric
  Excavation
  Moldings Finish Trim
  Other Home Building
  Pellet Stoves
  Plumbing
  Wood Stoves
Tools
  Electirc Power Tools
  Gas Power Tools
  Generators
  Shop Tools
  Techniques Howto
Landscape
  Flowers Shrubs Garden
  Golf Course Maintenance
  Irrigation Systems
  Landscape Design
  Landscape Lighting
  Landscape Maintenance
  Lawn, Turf, and Grass
  Vegetable Gardening
Construction
  Caterpillar
  Komatsu
  Wheel Loaders
Current Events Health Happiness
  Current Events
  Dogs and other Pets
  Electronics And Computers
  Food
  Health
  Just For Fun Off Topic
  Movies Music Games
  Personal Finance Investme
  Sports Outdoors
Tractorpoint Site
  Member Photos
  Site Members
  Website Operations Howto


New As Posted | Active Subjects



Click to Post a New Message!

Discussion Boards > Active Subjects > Messages as Posted > Size Tractor Needed Forum

Page [ 1 ] | 2 | | Next >>
Reply | Pop Up Window Reply | Add PhotoAdd Photo
 08-03-1999, 00:00 Post: 6583
Joe



Join Date:
Location:
TractorPoint Premium Member -- 5 Tractors = Very Frequent Poster
Posts: 1
 24 inches behind the lift points

My tractor manual says it can lift 2000 lb 24" behind the lift points. Can someone give me a simple answer as to what this means?






Reply to PostReply | Quote Post Reply to PostQuote Reply | Add PhotoAdd Photo




Bookmarks: Digg It | Del.icio.us |
 08-03-1999, 00:00 Post: 6586
Jack in IL



Join Date:
Location:
TractorPoint Premium Member -- 5 Tractors = Very Frequent Poster
Posts: 1

3
Filter by User
 24 inches behind the lift points

The SAE (Society of Automotive Engineers) Standard for comparing relative hitch lift capacity for Category I three point hitches specifies that the manufacturer provide the amount of weight that can be lifted when that weight is 24 inches behind the hitch points. Many typical implements have their centers of gravity in the vicinity of 24 inches or so behind the hitch points. If the tractor can lift "X" pounds at 24 inches, it can lift more if the implement center of gravity is closer (such as a typical box scraper) and less if the implement center of gravity is further back (such as a typical rotary cutter).






Reply to PostReply | Quote Post Reply to PostQuote Reply | Add PhotoAdd Photo




Bookmarks: Digg It | Del.icio.us |
 08-04-1999, 00:00 Post: 6595
Ted



Join Date:
Location:
TractorPoint Premium Member -- 5 Tractors = Very Frequent Poster
Posts: 1

4
Filter by User
 24 inches behind the lift points

Joe:Here it is in "crayon".... the two lower arms of your 3pth hitch are 24" long, in a perfect world, your tractor is capable of lifting 2000 lbs. at the end of the arms. However, Murphy's Law being what it is, etc, the front of your tractor comes up first, or the relief valve for the hydraulics opens, or some such 'fertilizer' gets in there to screw up the system.Ted.






Reply to PostReply | Quote Post Reply to PostQuote Reply | Add PhotoAdd Photo




Bookmarks: Digg It | Del.icio.us |
 08-04-1999, 00:00 Post: 6606
RickB.



Join Date:
Location:
TractorPoint Premium Member -- 5 Tractors = Very Frequent Poster
Posts: 1
 24 inches behind the lift points

Your crayon is on the wrong page. You are describing capacity at the lift point. The other poster has it right.






Reply to PostReply | Quote Post Reply to PostQuote Reply | Add PhotoAdd Photo




Bookmarks: Digg It | Del.icio.us |
 08-04-1999, 00:00 Post: 6618
Roger L.



Join Date: Jun 1999
Location:
TractorPoint Premium Member -- 5 Tractors = Very Frequent Poster
Posts: 0
 24 inches behind the lift points

I believe that Jack has it right.






Reply to PostReply | Quote Post Reply to PostQuote Reply | Add PhotoAdd Photo




Bookmarks: Digg It | Del.icio.us |
 08-06-1999, 00:00 Post: 6672
Jason MacKenzie



Join Date:
Location:
TractorPoint Premium Member -- 5 Tractors = Very Frequent Poster
Posts: 1
 24 inches behind the lift points

Jack is definatly right.. That was a very good and correct explanation.






Reply to PostReply | Quote Post Reply to PostQuote Reply | Add PhotoAdd Photo




Bookmarks: Digg It | Del.icio.us |
 08-07-1999, 00:00 Post: 6715
Ted



Join Date:
Location:
TractorPoint Premium Member -- 5 Tractors = Very Frequent Poster
Posts: 1

4
Filter by User
 24 inches behind the lift points

Rick:Sharpen your crayon............. Unless you have some REALLY different tractor, you have a total of SIX arms on your 3pth, the two small ones that come out of the diff. housing are the LIFT arms, these are connected to the tractor's hydraulics, then there are two drop arms that relay the power to the business end of the 3pth. So, the lift capacity is AT (or sometimes almost at) the pins that connect to your tractor. The 24" spec. is a standard by which all tractors can be judged equally. If you had a compact that could lift 2000#, 24" behind the end of the 3pth arms you would be doing well............... my M6040 can't...................






Reply to PostReply | Quote Post Reply to PostQuote Reply | Add PhotoAdd Photo




Bookmarks: Digg It | Del.icio.us |
 08-07-1999, 00:00 Post: 6717
Jack in IL



Join Date:
Location:
TractorPoint Premium Member -- 5 Tractors = Very Frequent Poster
Posts: 1

3
Filter by User
 24 inches behind the lift points

Sir, With all due respect, you really don't have this right. I refer you to the Society of Automotive Engineers Standards for 3 point hitches on tractors. For Category I hitches and larger (II, III, etc.) as used on agricultural tractors that now go to hundreds of horsepower, the STANDARD requires reporting hitch lift capacity as the maximum weight "X" of an implement whose center of gravity 24 inches behind the hitch points that can be lifted and held in the highest position. For large agricultural tractors today this is usually in excess of 14,000 pounds. This capacity is also measured and reported in the Nebraska Tests of large agricultural tractors. For garden tractors with Cat 0 hitch the distance is 12 inches. For JD 4300 and 4400s, this capacity is 2200 pounds. For 4400s and 4500s it is 2500 pounds.






Reply to PostReply | Quote Post Reply to PostQuote Reply | Add PhotoAdd Photo




Bookmarks: Digg It | Del.icio.us |
 08-08-1999, 00:00 Post: 6745
Ted



Join Date:
Location:
TractorPoint Premium Member -- 5 Tractors = Very Frequent Poster
Posts: 1

4
Filter by User
 24 inches behind the lift points

I think the standard you are speaking of is SAE Standard # J2708, titled "Agricultural Tractor Test Code", and I may be wrong, but, I think you will find that document speaks about "lift" points NOT "hitch" points. Take a trip to the library if you're so concerned..................






Reply to PostReply | Quote Post Reply to PostQuote Reply | Add PhotoAdd Photo




Bookmarks: Digg It | Del.icio.us |
 08-08-1999, 00:00 Post: 6749
Jack in IL



Join Date:
Location:
TractorPoint Premium Member -- 5 Tractors = Very Frequent Poster
Posts: 1

3
Filter by User
 24 inches behind the lift points

Ted, Good suggestion about going to the library to check the details. 1999 SAE Handbook, Vol 3, Pgs 39.30 & 39.31. TEST PROCEDURE FOR MEASURING HYDRAULIC LIFT CAPACITY IN AGRICULTURAL TRACTORS EQUIPPED WITH THREE-POINT HITCH. SAE J283 June 93. Paragraph 4.2 (regarding the load applied to the test frame attached to the 3 point hitch connections) ...."The lift force application point shall be 610 mm (24 in) to the rear of the lower HITCH points with the lower links horizontal." OK?? No problem here----this happens to everyone at one time or another.






Reply to PostReply | Quote Post Reply to PostQuote Reply | Add PhotoAdd Photo




Bookmarks: Digg It | Del.icio.us |
Reply | Pop Up Window Reply | Add PhotoAdd Photo


Page [ 1 ] | 2 | | Next >>

Discussion Boards > Active Subjects > Messages as Posted > Size Tractor Needed Forum

Thread 6583 Filter by Poster:
Jack in IL 3 | Jason MacKenzie 1 | Joe 1 | RickB. 1 | Roger L. 1 | Ted 4 |

 (advanced search)

Picture of the Day
jaylemaster

Shibaura - SL 1643
SL 1643


Unanswered Questions

Operation
Shibaura SD2203 rear axle oil
Mitsubishi MX55
Big country 4x2 utility vehicl
lift cylinder for 3pt hitch wo
Gator HPX ignition module
SL 1643
Removing LHS rear wheel beari


Active Subjects

Flatulent gifts human and dog
front mount snowblower
Still have jerk in hydro
Hydraulics Won t Work
4210 ehydro codes
P21f new solenoids or diff val
TC33D Telescoping steering col
Where Murf


Hot Topics

NorTrac Tractor Quality Review
Case 446 hydraulic pump
Long 460 hydraulic problem
Jinma Tractor w transmission p
Flatulent gifts human and dog
Generator set up ideas wanted
6X4 Gator Sometimes Shudders
Roof VP75 Brush Mower Manual


Featured Suppliers

Mountain Creek Labradoodles
      MountainCreekLabradoodles.com





New Forums on Gun Sport Shooting and Hunting -- BarrelPoint.com  New Forums on Horses ManePoint.com
Talk Horses at ManePoint
Hunting + Gun Sports at BarrelPoint



Most Viewed

+ How big a tractor to farm 20 acres
+ What is needed to bushhog 6 acres
+ Rotary cutter hp
+ Small Acreage - New Holland TC24D or Kubota BX23
+ tractor hours
+ What size tractor do I need Help
+ JD 790 vs Kubota L2500
+ Best compact landscaping rig
+ Please help 60acres to bushhog
+ What Size Tractor For Harvesting Firewood

Most Discussion

+ Gear or Hydrostatic
+ Recommended tractor size and t
+ What to get JD445 JD4100 or
+ JD 4100 v BX series
+ Please help 60acres to bushh
+ Notes on compact tractor tract
+ Kubota or John Deere
+ Compact 101 How big is too b
+ JD4400 or Boomer TC35D
+ Need help comparing new Compac

Newest Topics

+ Demand for under 100 hp tractors
+ New to farming
+ Buy Tractor to maintain under 2 acres
+ Comparing Two Tractors
+ UTILITY TRACTORS
+ New Holland VS Kubota VS Massey
+ need info
+ help for a novice
+ What is needed to bushhog 6 acres
+ B7500 hitch size question
















Turbochargers for Tractors and Industrial Machines
Cab Glass for Tractors and Industrial Machines

Alternators for Tractors and Industrial Machines
Radiators for Tractors and Industrial Machines

Driveline Components for Tractors and Industrial Machines
Starter Motors for Tractors and Industrial Machines