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 12-10-2000, 14:16 Post: 22313
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Hi guys im in the landscaping business and also have an acreage in eastern iowa. my ? is what do i need to buy a skid loader or a compact tractor. currently i have a ford 8-n tractor it works great but i want something with a loader on it and enough guts to pull a box blade or pulverisor. but skid loaders look good in some aspects also . you see what you have in the bucket and there quick on their feet. ive ran about every skid loader brand and like the new holland or bobcat,but i dont like the attachment $$$$ high end if you know what i mean. what if i kept my 8-n and got a skid loader ? i want to know your ideas it would be great to have a back hoe also. what do i do? whats your best combo tractor for a loader backhoe combo? new holland boomer? kubota l-series or what jarrett morgan






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Jarrett, in my opinion there are too many possibilities to give you a really intelligent answer to your questions. But if you're going to do a lot of backhoe work, I'd sure suggest that you look at the Kubota B21, L35, and/or the new L48 tractors. Of course, you can use a backhoe on lots of the other compact tractors, but you'll find a lot of discussion about the possibility of damage with a 3-point backhoe if you aren't very cautious with its use, and there are subframe backhoes available for the compact tractors, but the 3 I listed are designed specifically for that kind of use.






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 12-10-2000, 16:45 Post: 22317
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Jerrett,
Don't know where in eastern iowa you are but if you are close to ceder rapids talk to Dwight Hughes. He has a large nursery/landscape firm there. He was kind enough to allow me to try some of his equipment a power-trac being the one I was interested in. I am a landscaper the does finegrading and seeding only on that end of my business. I was impressed by the power-trac and it capibilities. Others on here will probably disagree but if you see what Dwight does with his you might consider it. They have packages available that are reaonably priced. you can check them out at www.power-trac.com. hope this helps.






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 12-10-2000, 16:49 Post: 22318
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Jarrett, take Mr. Senter's advice, he knows what he is talking about. Don't even think about a 3pt hoe unless you have a death wish! In addition, I too, do landscaping. I use several tractors but mostly a compact hydrostatic tractor with a FEL that has a skid steer attachment capability. I snap on and off each attachment with the throw of two levers. Why a compact instead of an out and out skid steer? The tractor is easier on lawns and paved surfaces. It doesn't have to be run at max throttle to work well, and its speed over all types of terrain is faster. It has two mechanical PTO's, it has real brakes plus a parking brake that works with a load, and I can have both the FEL and backhoe on at the same time. The MFWD is on only when I need it, it has three gear ranges with infinite speeds within each, it sips diesel fuel, and gives a softer ride because of its longer wheelbase. True, it can't turn in its own radius but that is of little concern to me. The B21, L35 and L48 have the big edge in our kind of work. Most guys I know have the L35 and it works better than my compact as far as the hoe is concerned. I personally don't like the B21, the few I've seen on the job are next to useless and usually get traded for the L35, eventually. I've used a skid steer just once and found the need to unhitch the bucket to mount the hoe was a major pain in the butt. Yet, lots of people like 'em, go figure?






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A 3 point backhoe isn't any more dangerous than a frame mount, if it has a brawbar bracket & is installed correctly. I can't believe in this litigous society that any manufacture would make a backhoe without some type of bracing to prevent the hoe from going up on the 3 point. Most of the advantages of the compact tractor have been discussed-- easier on lawns, cheaper attachments, easy in attachment mounting. I have used, low hour compact tractors & attachments including one with a loader & backhoe mounted on it. I'm 35 miles east of Clinton, Iowa. Feel free to contact me at sheaftractor@coiinc.com or 815-284-3226.






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For what my two cents are worth (their Canadian cents so probably only one cent US$). I am a "landscape contractor" also, except my business is basically 90% golf course work (new construction & on-going work). While I do own a skid-steer, I also own 8 compacts and a mini-excavator (small, 8', 4000# rubber-tracked backhoe). I firmly believe in having a good all-round machine, however, in business time is money. Nothing digs like a dedicated 'hoe' (sorry TLB fans). Further, a well designed loader will out perform a multi-task machine every day of the week, but you will create a big mess to clean up afterwards, and if you have far to travel with a load you will be MUCH slower. The vast majority of our work is done with 40hp class 4wd's with FEL's. If you have the money, by all means, buy one of each. If not, get a 4wd compact with a FEL (including quick-attach kit) you will never regret it. Best of luck.






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 12-11-2000, 10:20 Post: 22334
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As Murf says, nothing is as handy and universal as a 40 hp 4wd compact with a loader. I've had 8N Fords, T020s, and JDs....in fact a lot of us have. A modern compact is capable of so much more work with so much less effort that it isn't even a race. The one exception would be loading a tall truck in close quarters - which is easier done with the skid loader. But the compact will do it, and if you have to go any distance with the load then the compact will win out.
I have a three point hoe and it is just fine for occassional and hobby work. you can even stretch it to the point of being able to do a little real excavation. But if you are going to use one on a regular basis then get a frame mount. The reason has to do with how it works, not how safe it is.






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 12-11-2000, 11:46 Post: 22338
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THANKS FOR THE REPLIES GUYS WHAT DOES A KUBOTA L- 48 GO FOR $ ALSO I HAVE THE VIDEO FOR ONE OF THOSE POWER TRACS COOL MACHINE BUT CAN YOU LOAD A DUMP TRAILER OR TRUCK WITH IT.






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The lift height of the power trac is on the website specs. ranges from52 in to i think 9 ft. don't quote me on that, been a while since i looked. anyway, the best part about the machine is that it is real easy on the established lawns.






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Jarrett, try clicking on the Carver Equipment banner and navigate through their web site for information about the L48. I just now looked and see that they list the L48, loader, backhoe, and 4 in 1 bucket for "less than $39,500."






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