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 11-03-2000, 19:39 Post: 21197
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 What to get JD445 JD4100 or wait for new JD BX clone

We have a GT275 w/48" deck that is too small. We mow about 3 acres of residential grass and need something tougher for all the bumps. Got quote of $7950 for JD 445 w/54" deck plus another $900 for front blade setup. Got quote of $12500 for 4100HST, DSCV with 54" deck. We also have 350 foot driveway that needs snow removal. The 6 trees on the property would allow the 445 to get under fruit trees but not the 4100 with ROPS for close mowing. Part of the property has about 15 degree slope which might favor the 445 for safety. We like to ride tractors not push mow. The 4100 seems a little big and costly. What model would you go with or should we wait till JD comes out with their unannounced new 400 series (a Kubota BX style next spring?). We are leaning toward waiting since mowing season is about over. Your view?






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 11-03-2000, 22:09 Post: 21202
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 What to get JD445 JD4100 or wait for new JD BX clone

Like you, I am wanting to get a new mower for next year. I have been looking at ZTRs but I may end up with a riding tractor with a deck. If I bought today I would probably end up with a Grasshopper ZTR with a 5' deck but I am waiting to see both the new Kubota ZTR and the new JDs and see how they are priced. I have a JD4300 and it does heavy stuff really well but it is a little big for mowing up close to the house and around my trees. I am mowing a couple of acres now and plan on expanding my yard next year so whatever I get, I would like for it to mow faster than my current mower. I am going to keep shopping this winter and see if I can get one a little cheaper but I'm not going to hurry. SHort version of the above: I plan to wait unless a really good deal comes along.






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 11-05-2000, 20:56 Post: 21248
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 11-05-2000, 21:19 Post: 21249
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 What to get JD445 JD4100 or wait for new JD BX clone

I have owned both, 445 and the 4100, so I can share with you my views on these two machines. The 445 is a awesome cutting machine and I do miss my 445, but the 4100 lends itself to many more task. I too have slopes in my yard greater than 15 degrees and the 445 was not able to handle the hills for it would either loose traction going up or slide down while driving down the hill and made for some uncomfortable cutting. Also, I tried a loader on my 445 and it really can't handle it very effectively (i.e., lost traction or unable to lift moderate piles of stuff). That's when I decided to get a 4100! The 4100 will cut very well with the diesel engine and is capable of doing tons of work with the loader or any 3pt attachement. Hence, my recommendation to you would be to evaluate what you want to do and if it includes some 3pt applications and loader capabilities then the decision is clearly the 4100. If your only interested in cutting grass, then I would favor the 445.






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 11-12-2000, 11:18 Post: 21429
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 What to get JD445 JD4100 or wait for new JD BX clone

I think M. Latour's last message holds the key - try to determine as closely as possible what you'll use the machine for. I went through the same question, i.e. JD445 vs JD4100, and opted for the 4100. I'm very glad I went with the 4100 for the following: (1) 4-wheel Drive. Having 4-Wheel drive, especially when mowing on a slope, makes all the difference in the world. Even though both tractors have a Diff. Lock, 4-Wheel drive is a much better feature. (2)Better hydraulics - altho the 445 does have a 3-pt hitch available, the hydraulics on the 445 are not strong enough to power both front and rear implements at the same time, so a valve (located under seat, I believe) is opened or closed to direct hyd. to front or back. I originally liked the 445 more, because of the gas engine with efi, but after having owned the diesel for a short while (5 months / approx. 100 hours) I appreciate what the diesel does - provides lot's of torque at low RPM. I think the 4100 is much more useful as an all-around tractor - I have several implements, and am constantly amazed at what can be done with the 4100. I originally bought mine for mowing, snowblowing, and sweeping a paved driveway. I did get the loader, because I wanted to retire a manual wheelbarrow, and I'm totally pleased with it. I also got the forklift attachment for the loader, and I'd highly recomend that - in fact, it's more useful generally than the loader, unless you are moving soil or something loose like that. I've found the forklift great for moving brush piles, etc. Good luck in your search.






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 11-14-2000, 21:51 Post: 21510
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Sure like the comments. Right now we only need to move snow and mow grass. Looked at the specs again and 4100 is a lot more tractor ...also... if we bought the 445 and our needs increased then we would have to trade up again. Without a recount it is lookin like more votes for the 4100. Does anyone else out there think the rumor about "new JD 400 series with 4wd" is worth believing and waiting till early Spring 2001 ? Is Deere capable of delivering a good product the first year out the gate to compete with the Kubota BX series ?






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 11-14-2000, 22:12 Post: 21512
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 What to get JD445 JD4100 or wait for new JD BX clone

I was told in November of 1999 that the new 400 series was due out in the spring of 2000. When I checked back this spring I was told that after all the problems JD had with the 4000 series they had decided to delay until the spring of 2001. The dealers should know by now as JD just had there fall meeting with dealers.






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The 4100 is my vote. But like the guys keep saying, the 400 and the 4000 are two different types of machine.






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 11-15-2000, 07:29 Post: 21520
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 What to get JD445 JD4100 or wait for new JD BX clone

Clones are just what they are just a clone. By the real thing!






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If there are any JD dealers out there, tell us about the fall conference. How about just some news from someone who visited a dealer or was able to get some 2nd or 3rd hand info. Maybe a photo. We are listening. Just from the postings on this board there are people out there who are not waiting. They are buying the real thing, not a clone but a Kubota BX and seem to be loving it. After looking at the BX, it looks like a nice compromise. 4wd, no slip on slopes, and lower ROPS height than the 4100 which may allow passage closer to the trees, this could be usefull. No cost info yet - anybody price these machines out side by side. Let's hear some comments on this with respect to the original needs listed.






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