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 11-16-2007, 18:27 Post: 148356
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Can anyone identify this tractor? Similar to an Allis G but not sure what it is. Thanks. Smile
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 11-16-2007, 19:31 Post: 148360
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 Does anyone know what kind of tractor this is

Boy, that almost looks homemade to me but I am probably wrong. Someone will chime in that remembers it.






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 11-16-2007, 21:20 Post: 148363
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This was too easy!

It probably started life as an Allis-Chalmers Model G. It looks like it's had the front spindles modified and the rear fenders don't look original. They were made around the late 1940 through the 50's. There is all kinds of info on the web on them. It appears the 4 cylinder Continental engine was changed; the phot looks like it has a 1 or 2 cylinder---don't know for sure.






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 11-16-2007, 21:25 Post: 148364
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Here's your picture from your album for comparison.






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 11-17-2007, 05:37 Post: 148368
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This really bothers me but I might have to agree with EW on this one. The arch tube frame and the overall design are Allis all the way, but even the rear wheels are different,(pressed steel/the thin cast iron originals). Back when those were produced there were two real strong Allis dealers, one east of me who's family is still in business as an Agco dealer and another one west a few miles, gone now, but they sold quite a few of those most of which are still in grandpa's shed somewhere. One of those folks had one out this summer that I looked at, so in my dim little memory of the one I saw, the wheels, front and rear, and the fenders aren't Allis, but the rest???? Frank.






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 11-17-2007, 17:51 Post: 148379
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I'd say someone reworked the original allis! I see that you have a seed drum from a CaseIH planter there with the tractor!






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 11-17-2007, 19:16 Post: 148380
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Art, You ar right about the seed drum, I didn't catch that the first look see, I think I still have one of them around somewhere. Frank.






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 11-19-2007, 12:11 Post: 148432
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yep--that is a seed drum--my family is big Case family. I actually bought this tractor from a man out west, I'm in Indiana, got it home and got it running but the engine wouldn't pull a load to mow and threw a rod right away. Have tried to find an engine for it but no luck, got another tractor and it has been in my brothers pole barn, need to get rid of it. In addition to the mower, i have a disc plow and grader blade for it. Any idea what to sell it for?






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 11-19-2007, 12:41 Post: 148433
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I looked at all your photos and feel the that like others it's an A-C front end married to a heavily-modified "something else". Even the the drive train looks like it uses a wheel hub-and-bearing as a jackshaft where a PTO would go (A-C's didn't have a PTO to my knowledge). The trans/drive train you may find comes from a regular tractor that was turned around to run backward, which would expalin the need for the jackshaft and idler pulley to engage it.

And the belly mower looks like it too was custom made or a heavily-modified unit from something else.

As far as price, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. A new 20-25 hp engine is going to run in excess of of $1200 which is probably WAY more than this is worth even running. In the current condition it's in I feel you might get $300 on a good day as it is many many hours from be usable aside from being a grand away from a new engine. There aren't too many 20-25 hp engines looking for a home.

You might want to consider contacting A-C clubs on the web and putting up a classified ad. Or part it out and sell the parts on eBay and make a few bucks. The rear wheel weights alone are likely worth $75-$100 (they look like either 1940/50's Farmall or Ford).

And the blown engine is worth at least $100 to someone needing parts.

The fenders if not custom made, look like an Asian or Japanese maker of tractor--might be Russian (Belarus) or East Indian (Mahindra).

The steering wheel is not A-C.

You might end up cutting the front end loose from the rest but be careful not to lessen the value by hacking it up.
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 11-19-2007, 12:51 Post: 148434
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 Does anyone know what kind of tractor this is

EW, the jackshaft arrangement was likely a homebrew setup to drive the belly mower.

As you said, they didn't have a PTO. They were strictly for non-powered implements like cultivators, etc. and not big ones at that.

A lot of people around here, this area is big in harness racing, used them as a groomer for the stone dust oval tracks they exercise the horses on. That said, they're also pretty common too, generally you can get a decent one for about $1,000.

As far as I remember the G was originally equipped with a 4 cyl. L-head Continental, you may get lucky and find a used one taken off an irrigation pump or something like that.

If it was a little closer I'd be willing to offer a few bucks for it as a winter project to tinker with, I have an idea for one, but don't have the carve up one that's in good shape.

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