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 07-05-2002, 21:53 Post: 40078
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 Can B2400 handle 4 N 1 loader bucket

I have a B2400 2WD that I would like to put a loader with 4N1 bucket on to use to pick up brush, trash and mulch. My dealer is hard selling me a new 4wd B2910 saying B2400 can't handle extra weight of 4N1 ... which he says is only available in 60". Anyone put a 4N1 on B2400 and can give me a honest opinion of how it operates? What brands? Prices? Thanks in advance....






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 07-06-2002, 07:25 Post: 40085
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I think on a two wheel drive tractor that the extra weight of the 4-in 1 bucket would limit you as to the amount you would be lifting. You might find this a limitation after adding it and paying for the extra valve to operate it. You are only talking of brush removal with the 4 in 1 but what other uses do you have for the tractor loader.






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 07-06-2002, 07:48 Post: 40087
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I'm with Art. The added weight of the bucket will decrease the weight at the back of the tractor. Without ballast you will have little traction at the rear.
You want to push into the brush pile before you pick up a load. Without 4x this is difficult with a small tractor. When pushing piles for burning I have often started into the pile to realize that I am out of 4x and immediately noticed the problem and difference.






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 07-06-2002, 08:05 Post: 40088
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 Can B2400 handle 4 N 1 loader bucket

I would stick with all this good advise. I can testify to Eric's statement being 100% correct. I run between my material piles and work area in 2WD in this weather to avoid stress on the system and engage and disengage the 4WD as I load. Since I am older and prone to intermitten bouts of alzhiemer's, I regularly forget to engage the 4WD until the back tires lose traction, which is almost immediately. I have a 2910, I can imagine what will happen to the 2400 W/O 4WD. Perhaps you can find a used 2719, J/D 4100 or the like and trade up??? It's always a good excuse..er..ah..I mean good reason to do that kind of thing.






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 07-06-2002, 23:58 Post: 40106
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Thanks for the good advice. I actually have two 1998 model B2400's that I use in my landscape maintenance business. They are ... or were ... mostly used as mowers, each having only about 250 hours. We replaced them with zero turn mowers for grass cutting and they get very little use now. I was really looking for a way to make them more useful investments. I kind of figured that I would use one for light duty brush removal and mulch (an expensive wheel barrow so says my wife ...) I don't really have a need to lift heavy weight now (of course I did not see a use for 4WD when I bought these ... mistake) and figured I could keep the loader with 4N1 if and when finances allowed a trade up to B2910. Dealer only offered $7000 on trade for 2400 with 60" deck and bagger system with 250 hours. Paid around $14300 for machine four years ago and hard to justify taking that kind of hit. Wants right at $18000 for 2910 with 4N1 loader. Would not get another mower deck. Tested a 2910 and loved it but it is $11000 trade ... hard to swallow that kind of hit. Has anyone heard of a grapple bucket for compact tractor? Kind of like skid steer type ... that is lighter duty than 4N1?






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 07-07-2002, 05:46 Post: 40107
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I've seen pics of a grapple bucket. Some discussion may even be in the archives here, but I'm not sure where I saw it. I didn't recognize the name of the manufacturer, and I'm not sure how I'd try to find one other than a general web search or ask my dealer. Wish I had more specific info.

As I recall, it was a hydraulic unit that mounted onto the pipe between the loader arms. There were two grapples that raised and lowered over the bucket top. The only problem with the idea that I recall was that the grapples couldn't be raised high enough and they might interfere with some normal loader work. There may have been some sort of quick release of the grapples from the hydraulic cylinder so they could be raised further.






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 07-07-2002, 20:02 Post: 40128
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Tom that is not what we are talking about. Below is a link with a 4 in one bucket. I'm sorry I could not remember a site more apt and quickly find it.
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 07-08-2002, 08:15 Post: 40147
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There is a company by the name of ATI that builds 4-in-1 buckets for a compact tractor loader. The 60 inch weighs in at 350 lbs and sells for about 2000. They also build a grapple kit, this kit fits 48 to 66" bucket that weighs about 140 lbs and sells for 600. Either way you seem to be gaining about the same weight over the standard bucket.






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 07-09-2002, 17:05 Post: 40208
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After visiting the Carver Equipment site and seeing the grapple attachment for the standard buckets I decided on a LA352 for tractor. Think it will be a good compromise of weight and performance ... the grapple looks like just what I was looking for as a complement to the front end loader. They are supposed to e-mail me the price. I decided to go with my local dealer for the loader ... he came close to matching price ($3,000 installed with quick connect) and has offered me excellent service in the past. Thank you guys for your input. It was very helpful! Robert






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Yes, it was the Carver site where I remember the grapple bucket. Happy you found it. If my memory is accurate, the unit does have a quick release for the grapples, and the bucket isn't very good for scooping buckets of gravel etc. unless the quick release is used. It might be good to be check out the max height of the grapples and convenience of any release device.






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