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 12-02-2002, 21:28 Post: 45651
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 Road maintenance- rear blade or box scraper or

I joined a private community with about 3 miles of 9'wide dirt roads, (clay and red shale). Maintenance is poor with lots of erosion ruts, lots of small rocks, and occaisional larger (watermelon size) rocks that protrude up. There is an older medium size tractor there in good working order with about 6'wide wheel base. It has a small loader on the front and I believe a 3 pt hitch on the back and I guess weighs about 4000 lbs. My first thought was that tractor might be able to smooth ruts out if it had a box blade. Then I was told a back blade would be better, and would be better for angling material to the center to create the proper crown in the road. I am also concerned about the larger rocks. I would hate to get a blade and ruin it in the first 10 minutes by hitting an oversize rock. I am pretty green on tractors and implements and would appreciate any advice.






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 12-03-2002, 06:56 Post: 45663
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 Road maintenance- rear blade or box scraper or

For road work there are some nice machines out there that will do better than the machines you mentioned but the cost gets into the 2000 to 3000 dollar range. They can handle stones of all sizes as well as the fixed big boys and not be torn apart.






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 12-03-2002, 07:38 Post: 45665
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I bought the box because it cost less is heavy and will do a few things a blade without end-plates or scarifiers won't do easily. I say heavy, because weight is essential in allowing either a box or blade to cut compacted roadway material. The thing is that a heavy blade with all the adjustments and provision for end-pates and scarifiers is much more expensive than a box, and grading isn't the prime use for my tractor. If grading was a prime use, I'd probably would have coughed up the bucks for a good blade. For example, a blade with offset is almost essential for serious ditching unless the tractor is driven on the ditch bank, which often as not is unsafe. With my box, I'm limited to making swales and cleaning up drainage channels along my drives. I have cut and maintained roadway crowns though.

I think either a good blade or less expensive box would do the work. A 7' box would cover the tire tracks and allow for a bit of offset. A blade probably should be 8' to cover the tracks when angling the blade. An 8' blade on a 9' road might be unwieldy sometimes.

Grading is something of an art and I wouldn't expect to get good results the first few times out. It might be a bit easier for most people to get the hang of a box though. The one thing most people learn real quick is that when the front of a tractor goes up and down over bumps etc, the back does the opposite. It's pretty easy for a blade or box to dig bigger holes rather than fill the old ones in. I wouldn't worry too much about breaking things. 3ph implements will float up and over most obstacles. However, I'd do a walk through first and then go slow and use minimal attack angles to see if anything's going to snag. I'd also probably take weight off the back, put weight into the loader and run in 2wd. The combination of slow ground speed and minimal traction hopefully would prevent any damage if the blade would hang up. There's a bunch more that could be said and probably will, but there's also a bunch in the archives that covers the subject pretty well.






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 12-03-2002, 09:14 Post: 45667
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There is a 3pt. machine that should work well with any larger compact. It has been sold under a variety of names and variations in design. It most commonly is refereered as a grade-all. It consists of two I- beams connected in the middle by to angled, parallel grader blades Some versions position the grader blades at opposite angles. Reguardless, Many rural counties use them to supplement the road patrols. They are excellent for removing potholes and never having them return. They have no moving parts and are excellent for your situation.






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 12-03-2002, 09:14 Post: 45668
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I think your besr bet would be to hire someone with a motor grader. They could drag the ditch lines and get it back into shape. After that you could maintain it with a box blade.

You might even talk the county road crew into grading it for you. Here in Oklahoma, if a school bus drives down a private road, the county will maintain it.

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 12-03-2002, 09:16 Post: 45669
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Oh, expect to pay around 1500 retail or make one for around 500 at a welding shop. Most dealers can get them even if they don't stock them.






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 12-03-2002, 10:36 Post: 45673
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Another option might be a drag scraper, which is basicly a big box scraper with wheels on the back and a hydraulic or mechanical adjustment for depth of cut. Since it is pulled like a trailer it takes out some of the undulations Tom refered to.
I just converted my box scraper to this configuration and it works really well for getting a smooth grade. I can pull the trailer tongue and the wheels off and return it to a three point box in less than five minutes... best of both worlds I think.






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 12-04-2002, 10:54 Post: 45720
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Here is what I refered to in the post above. This is the OEM for several lines. These things work very well for road maintenence and road building.






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 12-04-2002, 20:02 Post: 45733
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Thanks, everyone, for all the ideas. The drag scraper looks easier to operate than some of the other options. Mark, if you read this, when you converted your box scraper to a drag scraper, did you create a depth adjustment feature and if so how?






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