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 05-08-2001, 10:59 Post: 27895
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Has anyone ever put a backhoe on a JD 650? what kind was it and did it work well for you?Matt






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 05-08-2001, 17:17 Post: 27937
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I have a Woods backhoe on my JD750, and have been very pleased with it. Powerful for it's size and quite rugged. One hint: After the first year, the toplink attachment point on the tractor was hogged out badly from the abuse the 'hoe puts on it. For about the same money as replacing the bracket, I had a machine shop turn me out a set of hardened bushings and drill out the bracket and press them in. No problem since, and it's been 8 or 9 years.






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 05-08-2001, 18:23 Post: 27941
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Great idea, I might just do that anyway mine is getting quite worn as it is.
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 05-08-2001, 22:14 Post: 27951
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Paul, what model Woods hoe do you have on the 750?






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 05-09-2001, 03:56 Post: 27953
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Mat, according to my John deere manual I have the # 7 backhoe of of J.D. will fit your tractor. Its still available and its a frame mount unit which is not so hard on the tractors frame as a 3 point mount. I hope this helps!

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 05-09-2001, 05:41 Post: 27955
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Roger, I have the 650. 6 and a half foot max depth, 16" and 8" buckets. Only problem I've had with it is in tough digging (dry clay or rocks) it'll pick the back end of the tractor right off the ground and drag it around. Other than that, it's been a working fool. Since I bushed the toplink attaching point, I haven't seen any wear and tear on the tractor, and it's MUCH more convenient than a frame mount. Takes about 5 minutes to attach or detach.






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 05-11-2001, 22:44 Post: 28065
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I had a JD 650 many years ago and put a JD backhoe on it. I think it was a Model 7 hoe. It worked fine with one MAJOR limitation. It did not swing 180 degrees. It was a bear to use much of the time. Very difficult to pile the dirt without it falling back into the hole. I may not remember correctly if this was the model but I think it was. I believe it was made by Arps for Deere. Since then I've had 3 hoes on larger compacts and they all swing 180 degrees. I would never buy a hoe that won't swing all the way.

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 05-12-2001, 07:54 Post: 28076
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I have a 7 backhoe (it is only 6 months old) and it does swing 180 deegrees. Not saying that a few years ago that model had smaller limitations. they don't have that problem now.

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 05-12-2001, 10:49 Post: 28084
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I had to repair my little 3pt backhoe (6'2" digging depth) last year and some of the larger bolts in the repair limited the swing to a less than a full 180 degrees. It wasn't much less, but like Andy says, it turned out to be a real inconvenience until fixed. I've never seen a new hoe that didn't have a full 180 degrees of swing - and wondered why they aren't built with more.
When looking at new backhoes now, the things I am looking for are: heavy duty quality of all pivots and gussets, a smooth controllable swing, a LOT of bucket curl force, and lots of loading height.






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 05-13-2001, 06:23 Post: 28107
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I believe my Kelley B600 swings somewhere in the 170's, but not a full 180. I suppose I wish it has full swing, but I haven't found the lack that limiting. However, it is true that for deep trenching, I do push the top of the pile back with the side of the bucket, but I haven't resorted to dumping on both sides of the trench. Also true that when excavating a hole I probably have to remove the pile with the loader more often, but I haven't found it that bad. I have noted that, despite the toe guards on the hoe deck, it is possible to scrunch toes during extreme swings. I don't know about other hoe designs, but I have to remind myself to keep my feet flat on the deck behind the guards. Well, maybe I'm just acting out some old motorcycle frustrations. I always sort of envied Harley riders out on the highway. They could stretch out their legs on the high pegs while I had to keep mine tucked backed under me on my Honda 750. Of course, stretching out isn't exactly safe on hoe or bike.






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