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 03-05-2005, 14:17 Post: 107320
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I need some help. I have a 1530 boomer series NH. Trying to make a Backhoe Decision. I have a Woods 1012 loader. Was thinking of a NH757c , or Rhino, or Bush hog, Prairie dog, but everbody says I have to stick with Woods cause of the Loader. I want a Subframe. I can get a deal on a Woods 6500 but like the specs on the 7500 or the 757C, RHINO. Looking for the best price and digging power. Do I have to stick with Woods ?? Help !!!






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 03-07-2005, 16:34 Post: 107456
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There has been a lot discussion on backhoes on CUTs posted here particulary on NH's. The posts are invaluable for making that critical decison.
That said, and it bears repeating, when I took delivery on my NH TC33D the dealer strongly discouraged me from thinking about a backhoe of any kind. Reasons: The machine isn't designed to effectively cope with the extremes of tension, compression, and bending forces exerted by a backhoe. When these forces exceed design-intent, the front subframe tends to separate at the bell housing.






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 03-07-2005, 17:09 Post: 107464
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Thanks for the comeback, but I'm a new member and I couldn't see the part after tension.






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 03-07-2005, 17:39 Post: 107469
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I sent you the rest of my post. You might want to become a member as there is a lot good stuff to read here. This is the best site I have found.






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 03-07-2005, 18:36 Post: 107473
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earthwrks,
You make a good point about backhoe putting a lot of stress on a tractor.
But heres how I look at it. The mfg's know many owners install backhoes. The mfg's offer factory backhoes as options, therefore the mfg should be building the machine to take it.
The biggest reason I purchased a compact tractor is to have one machine do it all on my property and that includes backhoe work.






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 03-07-2005, 19:12 Post: 107475
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1530boomer,
I can't answer your question on backhoe capatibilty with a Woods loader.I'm not familiar with Woods loaders and how they are attached. But I doubt you are restricted to a Woods only backhoe.






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 03-07-2005, 20:20 Post: 107481
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DK35: In a perfect world you would be correct. New Holland nor a vast majority of tractor Mfg's don't design nor build their own attachments, let alone their own equipment. Case in point: The cutting brakes on my TC33D are useless. They are both on the same side (right foot) as the HST pedal. (the only way to use the right one is the cruise control must be ON, and the pedals not connected to each other) Good design and forethought? Nope. Do guys like us buy them? Yep. The battery on my TC is located forward of the front axle in FRONT of the hot radiator. Where does the tractor bounce the most? In the front. Where does some of the heat go? In the battery. The battery ends up losing half its electrolyte bouncing (dealer info.). And where does that acid go, never mind the gases? Through the radiator, past the engine and up through the steering column hole in the shrouding and into my lungs. The ignition switch, the back of which is exposed to the elements. The same gaseous and hot air from the radiator blows into the back of the switch filling it with dirt. Good design? Hardly. Right now I have a situation with my $40,000 NH skid steer that is 25 decibels too loud (115db) according to OSHA regulations (90db) (for reference the loudest my 36" TV will go is 80db). Was NH aware of the situation but kept making and selling them anyway? You bet. (NH Reps admitted it) Now they are buying it back. Will they fix it before it's resold to some unsuspecting consumer? Of cour$e not. And what drives these things that seemingly get "overlooked"? "The bottom line" to shareholders and big $$$ bonuses to Management. So can we as consumers rely on a manufacturer to give us safe and reliable equipment? You be the judge. FYI: When I was an automotive engineer, Management's response to bad engineering was, "Let (the)Warranty (dept.) take the hit. We have a budget to keep". Pretty much sums it up.






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 03-07-2005, 22:28 Post: 107500
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I have a whole lot of backhoe work lined around the house again for this summer and I just bought a 36" bucket (that sucker is big).
If I'm going to break my tractor in half I think this is just the bucket to do it. Laughing out loud !!






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 03-08-2005, 07:58 Post: 107518
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Murfy's Law says that if it does break---it'll be just a day out of warranty!

Like they say in show business: "Now go break a leg"...err... bellhousing. Laughing out loud






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HEY!!! Now go ahead and rough my feathers!!! Laughing out loud I never buy extended warrenty's anymore but there are 2 things that I do buy them on. One is vacumes, my wife tears em up big time and I can make a $75 vacume with a $20 ex warrenty last for 4 years. I used to go thru printers at the rate os 1 every year to 1 1/2 yrs. I thought I beat the last one and bought the $29 extended warrenty. If ever anything goes wrong I bring it back and get a brand new one for free right there and then. YOU Guessed it. Feb. 17th was the last day of the 3 years. It has run flawlessly for the whole time. On March 2nd the printer blew the heads! Not qiute 2 days out of wrrenty but 2 weeks or so!
Thanks for stirring memories I was trying to forget (from just 1 week ago!)
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Qoute:"{{The bottom line" to shareholders and big $$$ bonuses to Management.}}
We have been told for 4 months now, that our wages are out of line with the rest of their workers. We have told them that just "1" of their top dogs BONUSES for last year would of paid the straight wages to most of our employees for the year
I hear you!!!! And you did hit it on the head about the budgets. I went to our ""Quality controll" guy about 7-10 times last year with concerns I had. These were not nit picky concerns, they were things like ," Hey I just repaired and reworked 650 housings and the engineer will NOT go to the wash with them!!! He is assembleing them with chips,cast dust,and what ever else is stuck to them" EVERY time he said he would look into it. I stopped complaining!!! They do what they want to make their budgets look good. As long as UPPER management dont find out someone on his level made a mistake everything will be cool!!! Let the owners deal with cust. service and the warrentee dept.!!!
What a crock, you slapped her in the face on that one bubby.
This is not a CNH only problem. Its all over.






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