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 10-14-2007, 17:44 Post: 146958
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I live in southcentral PA and I'm thinking about a 10 acre property with a level 500' long packed gravel driveway. I'm looking at compact tractors in the 15-25hp range with FEL.

We get a few snowstorms each year of a foot or less, sometimes powdery, some heavy and wet, some mixed with freezing rain. My wife and I have 9-5 jobs and FWD cars so we need to get things cleared efficiently and thoroughly.

It seems I could scrape/scoop with the FEL, push with the blade, a 3pt snowblower, or buy a plow for our 4WD F-150.

Keeping cost in mind, what HP and attachments would you suggest for both an adequate and deluxe solution?

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 10-14-2007, 18:21 Post: 146960
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I cant suggest a specific method for your tractor, but I do think that if you are looking into the tractor anyway, you might be smarter to plan on spending the money on the tractor for snow removal rather than the F-150. That is, if you can bear throught the cold temps. A plow for the tractor is going to cost roughly the same as a plow for the truck, give or take a few hundred. I have done a bunch of plowing with F-150 and though most of the time the truck performed well, occasionally, after a big storm, I was asking that truck to do an awful lot of work which it wasnt built to do. Unfortunately, I have not actually plowed snow with a CUT, but it something I am working toward-(getting a tractor with a nice plow.)






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 10-14-2007, 21:37 Post: 146975
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Dgeesaman,

I live in North Dakota, where we don't get much snow, but the wind never stops blowing. We move the same snow around, many times, all winter long.

I've tried every method under the sun. For me, the best option, by far, is the snowblower. Snowblowers don't leave any piles around. It's the piles of snow that drifts form behind. Any pile of snow, even if it's only a few inches deep, will cause a drift to form behind it. Therefore, anything I can do to eliminate any snow pile, is going to place me miles, and many frozen hours ahead of the game.

A snowblower leaves a nice clean finish. By far, the best finish you'll ever get with any machine. It also makes the yard look so much better during a long winter, as you'll never have any piles of snow lying around.

Additionally, snow piles take much longer to melt in the Spring and that isn't a good thing, due to the amount of mud that remains in the driveway for so long. That wet gravel and sand gets tracked into the house much longer than it would if you had a blower. With the blower, all of the snow melts at about the same time, allowing the driveway to dry out nearly a month sooner than when making large piles.

I like snow blowers. There is simply nothing better, nor more expensive. It isn't the cheapest route to go, but it is the best.......and you can get blowers to fit a tractor in the 20hp range.

You'll just want to make sure you don't get one that's narrower than your tractor.....nor much wider. Heavy, wet snow, is very difficult to blow, and it requires a tremendous amount of muscle to move it. (It's best to take a 1/2 width cut in the wet stuff) It is important to match your blower to your tractor, especially anywhere you receive heavy, wet snowfall.

For most of your snow removal work, you'll be able to go pretty fast. It's those deep, wet snows that require a lot of time. Even so, you'll find nothing that does a better job of moving the snow, nor nothing that leaves a cleaner finish.

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 10-14-2007, 21:48 Post: 146976
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Using the loader bucket to clear snow is not fun. The bucket is small and fills quickly. When it fills you have to dump it somewhere, which means backing up, turning, and dumping it to one side. As you do the snow packs down under the tires. A little packing is good because it keeps the gravel down, but if it turns real cold the packed snow turns into slick ice fast. It's also hard to control the bucket scoop depth. If you must go this route you probably should use a "Murf" pipe on the loader bucket edge to keep the edge from digging into the drive as you scoop. I clear snow with the loader because it doesn't snow here very often, but if it snowed any more I'd be looking for another solution.






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 10-14-2007, 22:10 Post: 146977
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I've used a loader and a rear blade to move snow with a tractor. I've also used ATV's with a plow in the past and snowblowers. For bigger drives like what you are looking at, I'd go with the tractor. It's less strain on the F150 and the tractor is usually built to handle work.

Using the loader worked ok for clearing the top of the driveway between the barn & the main house garage. Limited area, not a long drive. The loader is good for clearing snow drifts too. I would sometimes use the loader to clear snow and once full, keep pushing like a plow. But my tractor had 4x4. I used an old 2wd tractor in a similar fashion, but it was much easier to spin the wheels. Drawback of using a loader is moving the gravel back in spring.

For the main drive, I used a rear blade angled to kick the snow out the side. But my main drive usually didn't have deep snow due to being the highest point around so the wind kept it fairly clear.

Depending on the size of the gravel on the drive, I think a tractor with a blower would be the sweatest setup. But I lacked the $$ to pull that off. So I stuck with the loader and $75 rear blade. If you have deeper snow to clear with a rear blade, I'd be sure to have a 4x4 tractor to get the extra traction. Be wary though, wet snows and spinning tractor tires cause ice really fast. That's why I have a 4x4 tractor instead of a 2wd tractor anymore. I had a really bad experience with wet snow and the 2wd tractor. If you must have a 2wd tractor, I'd put a blower out front or a front blade so the rear tires are running in the cleaned path.

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 10-14-2007, 22:37 Post: 146978
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Thanks for the answers.

Will turf tires be too big of a handicap on packed snow/ice?

FYI, we don't get long winters here. We get snow followed by a little melt, followed by cold,.... you get the idea. It sounds like a snowblower is overkill, but in a good way.

Is there any way the tractor can help break up pack ice? Tire chains?

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 10-14-2007, 23:53 Post: 146982
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Turf tires are actually much better that either Ag or Industrial tires on snow.

Even better would be a set of radial mud and snow tires like the ones on your truck if you can get them in a size to fit your tractor. That is what I use. I inflate them to about 8 psi for normal use and 20 psi if the backhoe is in place.

When it comes to traction and ride comfort on dry ground and snow they are miles ahead of ANY standard tractor tire.

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 10-15-2007, 01:21 Post: 146985
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Degeesaman,

Turf tires work very well in the snow. They work even better if you run them with about half the normal air pressure in them. When fully inflated, any tire will act more like an ice skate. Be sure to increase your tire air pressures accordingly, when hauling heavy loads during the winter months.

As for breaking up the ice pack, I use a spike-toothed harrow, which I drag down the length of my driveway several times during the early Spring months. (March or April) This looses the ice and snow, allowing the sun and wind to quickly dry out my gravel driveway. Without this, the driveway will remain wet and muddy much longer.

You'll want to keep about two inches of snow-pack on your gravel driveway during the winter months, as this will prevent you from pushing or blowing rocks and sand. If you have a paved driveway, you won't need to keep the snow-pack in place.

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 10-15-2007, 07:06 Post: 146989
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I had a plow on a pickup, it did fine till the really hard packed stuff, then it needed help. I used to have an 8ft. blower on a 100 HP tractor when we were on the farm, that was a great machine, but with a shorter, (100 ft.) driveway now I sold it and use the 4310 and loader. With a pickup plow you need a good pickup that will start on a cold snowy morning and a plow for it can be a 3-4500 dollar deal unless you find a used one. So if you really don't need a pickup for other things this is a pricey way to go. A 500 ft. driverway with a little 3-4 ft. blower on a 25 HP. tractor with no cab working in the dark will get old fast. If you are buying a tractor and loader anyway use the loader for cleanup after work and have a guy with a pickup plow do the early morning get you to work plowing. When I had the pickup plow I had several folks who had me "Get them to Work" plow at 5 or 6 in the morning and they would trim up after work with their loader or a shovel in the daylight. I usually have the quarry deliver a load of crushed limestone about this time of year and use it to scatter on the ice, that seems to break it up after driving over it a few times, plus it keeps the salt out of the lawn. Frank.






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 10-23-2007, 21:05 Post: 147262
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Has anyone used chains on their tractor and found them to be effective? I am a little afraid to play in the snow with my B7800 4x4 on my 1000 ft drive because of the steep dip in the middle, where our drive goes down and up thorough a ravine. I can just imagine that tractor stuck down there blocking even our cars from getting by.

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