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 02-01-2004, 10:37 Post: 75675
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I am buying a TC40 this month and have a few extra $ left for some new impliments. What would your suggestion be if you could pick 2 impliments for breaking/preparing a five acre old (8 year old) clover field. I have a new 6' KK dick/harrow but never used it yet. (My old 8N was in pretty bad shape). I am planning to round up this year before preparing the 5 acres to get some of the weeds back in control but am new to the TC40 fwd and have no experiance in what it can handle for impliments.
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 02-01-2004, 15:02 Post: 75692
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Maybe I missed it, But what are you planning on doing with these 5 acres? Is it just to get the weeds underconrol? Or are you going to plant some sort of crop? If it is just to get the weeds down you have a couple options. I worked on a 3 acre old pasture that I wanted to set up for a grass riding arena. It was not my land, but I had permission to use it to ride. It was filled with queen annes lace and wild rose, amounst other weeds. Brush hogged it down reall short and then a week later went over it with a finish mower ( level ground ) I repeated the finish mower process weekly to 10 days for the first summer. By not allowing the broad leaf weeds to grow and shade out the grasses, by september it turned back into a nice grass ( Timothy / Orchard grass mix ) field. YOu don't have to do the finish mower, you can just do a brush hog, just keep the blades sharp. Being the field is old and most likely has alot of thatch, it may no hurt to rake it after the first cutting and then use a slit seeder to get some new seed started. Some of these attachments may just be used once or twice. So I would look at renting a few attachments. But I would recommend a Brush hog.






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 02-01-2004, 15:48 Post: 75699
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I am sorry for lack of info, I am planning to plant it again. I have 10 acres of food plots going and need to get the last five acres prepaired for the fall planting. I know it will take a year for my lime and minerals to get where I want but This spring I need to get the ball rolling again. I have been down for a while with repairing the old 8N and just tired of it so the little lady gave me the ok to buy my retirement tractor early (Laughing out loud) I really dont want to turn it over because it is going into annuals (brassicas) and maybe a winter wheat field just for the deer. I would like to prepair a decent seed bed though 3-4 inches deep, so I really am trying to get the sod broke and start decomposing while disturbing only the top 4 inches. I have very little knowlege of what that tractor will handle for equipment that I may need. I total out at 15 acres in fields and to maintain a few miles of trails for brush hogging/mowing. Snow removal will come later when I move.






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 02-01-2004, 16:36 Post: 75701
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OK, That narrows thing down. You mention the 6' Disc harrow so you can break up the ground and churn it under. I would still highly recommend brush hoggin' the filed first if you have not already done so. As Far as Attachments only two really come to mind for this a Rake to level things out and removes some of the stone and roots, the other is a tumbler. ( I am not certain of the true name. ) Basically after you disc/rake and then seed. Right after you seed you will go over the land with a tumbler to push the seed down into the soil and ensure you get good soil contact for germination. They come in a variety of widths and sizes. I know some folks who have created their own by making a hitch frame and then taking 2 or three 55 gallon drums running a pipe through the middle and then filling them with sand. Then they run one long solid pipe inside the pipe attached to the drums allowing them to roll. In you case you may want to buy one, since you are looking at planting an anual crop and then winter crop. You would have a regular need for one. I will try to find a link for you.






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 02-01-2004, 18:54 Post: 75705
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Thankyou
Never gave a rake a thought and your right it would be used often especially in my area where we grow new ones every year. You are talkin about a culipacker, anouther good suggestion and one that will be high on my list. With the NH TC40 is a 6 1/2 foot disk about as big a disk as I would be pulling? The KK disk harrow has the serrated diskes in front and the smooth ones in back with 3 different angle settings, or do you know if that tractor would be able to pull a larger 8 foot or 10 foot disk?
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 02-01-2004, 19:17 Post: 75708
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I pull the same disk with my tractor very easy ,So I'm thinking you could pull one a tick larger. the heavier the better cutting it will do.






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 02-01-2004, 19:55 Post: 75709
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Cultipacker Huh? We always just called it the tumbler, But to be honest I don't know why. With a TC40 you should have no real trouble with a 6' Disc. But.... There is always one. I also do not know what type of soil conditions you have and the overall condition of the field. If it is a sandy loam or hard clay. This will make a difference, especially the first time you go to disk after 8 years.To be honest if you already have the 6' I would try it and see how it goes. You are looking at only 5 acres. Or are you doing annuals on all 15 acres?
Found an interesting one you might be interested as you will be planing a couple times a year






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 02-02-2004, 12:56 Post: 75787
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Well,if it is really a clover field,thats not bad now,as far as wildlife goes!You might just be able to lime it,the pellet lime needs to set for a while,powder works quick.Then disk it with your disk so the seeds you plant will make soil contact,then go over it lightly again with disk to cover a little,but if its a clover field your already close. The roller,don't think you would need unless your worried about how smooth it is,might even be bad for going over planted seed with,espiecially if dirt was damp. Richard






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 02-02-2004, 18:51 Post: 75806
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How does the 6 1/2 KK work? It looks like it is put together pretty well for the money. Has your disk held up to small rocks pretty well? No matter how long I pick, they seem to keep coming up with every rain Laughing out loud.
Question on a "BOX SCRAPER" What,how, and why do you use it. I put in a really nice plot last Aug. using a 12' disk and a rototiller on the skid steer. The turnips came in great and were a heck of a draw in November here in Wisconsin. The box scrapers I have been seeing look like they could rip up field pretty well, but what can you use it for and how clean does the field have to be (from weeds or vegitation) Before you use it? Thanks
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Scrapers are sort of the Swiss Army Knives of landscape tools used for grading, smoothing, finishing and moving. Specialized things for each operations work better but most everything can be done with a scraper. I don't think of them as implements for field work though.

I've used a scraper for removing sod from fairly small areas but I think a plow and disk would work better for fieldwork. They don't get along with big rocks that well but what does? The scarifiers will bring some rocks to the surface though.

For sod, the scarifers just cut grooves and don't make furrows. I cut it both directions and then most of the sod pulls off the sandy soil here with a bit of pressure from the blade. I'm left with big chunks of sod. Some of them are large enough to use for re-sodding if you don't mind working jigsaw puzzles. I'm usually left with the problem of what to do with the sod and end up cutting it back into the plots with a walk behind tiller. If there's not too many rocks, just starting off with a tiller may be better, but it'd be slow going.






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