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 04-25-2003, 15:06 Post: 53763
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I am planning on putting up a additional barn on my mini-farm. Here is my problem: The wife insists on a "old style" which translates to post and beam construction and not pole barn/truss construction. Does anyone know where I can obtain plans that recreate the old time post and beam barns? I know there are old frames that are blueprinted out there for purchase, however, they are BIG $$. There are old barns out there for teardown, but that means double the labor to teardown and put back up.I have located a good supply of old beams that have already been knocked down and I plan on using new rough cut lumber for the siding, all I need are plans.

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 05-13-2003, 23:08 Post: 54838
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Timber framing is not something you want to leap into with out training. For example you do not use old dried timbers but new semi green timbers. The shrinkage of the timbers tightens the joints and strengthens the structure. The dowels are just held in with the shrinkage.
I have seen a number of courses offered and they are not free, although someone gets a free structure out of it.
I think you need to find someone that will do it for you. Personally have not but grew up where a lot of friends were building log structures. Despite this I would not tackle it unless I worked with someone first.
I am not sure that I would want to do that much work today for a barn. You can look at my barn pictures. It is certainly a nice structure and more secure than a post and beam.






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 05-13-2003, 23:12 Post: 54839
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I am sorry Beetle I guess I did not answer you initial question. Nearly all post and beam barn are custom and many of the old timers never used any diagrams. You would likely need to draw up you own plans.






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 05-14-2003, 07:08 Post: 54854
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Black Creek Pioneer Village in Toronto preserves many original Mennonite farm buildings. For people who happen to be near Toronto or similar sites elsewhere, it's worth the trip just to see the timber framing. Massive hand hewn square timbers, and the timbers are often joined by joints usually seen on old furniture--all hand cut. The design probably is overkill but it sure is impressive. I imagine it would be difficult to find anybody to work with that retained the skills needed to do this type work.

Actually, we've been loosing skills for a long while now and are maybe getting to be a bit like Medieval Europe. Thirty years ago in Pennsylvania a dome on a public building sprung a leak. Nobody knew how to fix it. Somebody agreed to come out of retirement long enough to train and supervise a crew. Wonder what they'd do now? Ancient cities that were build over centuries and civilizations have disappeared within 30 years and not due to external invasions. You never know what you've lost till it's gone. Historic perspective can keep us safer than present fashion.






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 05-15-2003, 07:55 Post: 54911
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Peters; good point on the old dried seasoned beams. If I tackle the project, I believe I will use new semi-green beams that are readily available, she will just have to live with it. As far as the challenge goes, I am up for it! Keeps me from getting stagnant. I have located plans through a Timber frame company that builds homes and barns, however, you never find what you have in mind so I think I will have a Architect do custom plans. Thank you for your comments.






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Beetle;
Sounds like fun. I have toyed with the idea more from the timber truss point of view than the post and beam barn.
If you look at my pictures I have the thought of building my next structure using ICF's and then adding timber trusses to the top.
I rocked the walls on part of the ICF on the house with natural rock and think a structure with rock in and out and the timber trusses above would be interesting, like an old PA barn.






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I would suggest you contact a post & beam company not just an architect for your plans, timber framing is quite a science and not just anyone can tackle it, the design process being critical to the strength of the finished product.

One of the foremost companies in this field is only a few miles from here, I would suggest you contact them you can have them design and manufacture the 'pre-fab' kit then put it up yourself.

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Check out these guys - they offer post/beam barn kits but they are not cheap...

http://www.countrycarpenters.com/






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