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 02-15-2003, 20:54 Post: 49326
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 Looking for an ideas for a crane hoist in barn

I am currently building a basic pole barn. Almost ready for the metal siding. I really want to build a fairly large hoist that I can use to help load/unload trailer. I think I only need to left up to 2000 lbs. I Hope to find a way to make the cross arm swing in and out the barn door. If anyone has any ideas or other things to conside please let me know. Thanks, CR






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 02-16-2003, 07:18 Post: 49338
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 Looking for an ideas for a crane hoist in barn

I found quite a bit of hardware for over-head lifting once when I did a web search for 'cable and chain hardware' and similar search strings. There was quite a bit of specialized rigs and slings, spreaders etc. There even was a company that specializes in a product for hoisting elephants.

I believe that in Amsterdam, supposedly where the smallest house in the world is, most houses have hoists built into the roof tresses that extend far enough from the house to hoist things to the upper stories. The houses are so narrow that not much can be taken up the stairs. I think I remember similar things on old barns.






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 02-16-2003, 17:54 Post: 49367
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 Looking for an ideas for a crane hoist in barn

what you are looking for is a jib crane, they come in two basic styles. some are free standing and involve a lot of concrete work. others can be fastened to a verticle element of a structure. they can be fastened directly to a col in your barn if the col is capable of handleing the load. otherwise they come with thier own col but still rely on the barn for lateral support. a simpler method is to run a mono rail down the center of a bay through the exterior wall above a door this requires barn style doors not overheads and also relys on the structural integrity of the structure.you would need an s beam not awide flange as most trolleys are desighned for standard beams only.






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 02-16-2003, 18:34 Post: 49368
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 Looking for an ideas for a crane hoist in barn

Charlie, when I put up the farm shop few years ago I wanted to put in a one legged hoist such as you describe, and also had a used hoist from a gas station with the cylinder under the floor, but the concreet contractor refused to pour the footings for either one for liability reasons. So my solution was buying a used Clark forklift with conventional pneumatic tires that was meant to operate in outdoor conditions. In the end I spent less money, and can carry things most anywhere, but I did give up the ability to suspend something while repairing it, I don't trust the hydraulics enough to work under something on a forklift.






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 02-27-2003, 10:31 Post: 50183
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 Looking for an ideas for a crane hoist in barn

Jib cranes are OK but require a lot of structure to support the load that is swinging on the boom.

I built a barn four years ago and placed an I-beam a few inches below the roof. It is supported on both ends by built-up wooden columns integrated into the barn walls. (five 2X6 bolted together) This I-beam can carry one ton loads in the center. I bought a trolley that runs along the 25 ft span of the beam. I can pick up a one ton load and transport it by hand by rolling the load on the trolley. I have used this to lift milling machines and other heavy equipment into and out of my truck.

In terms of cost, the I-beam method is much cheaper than the jib crane. Since the load is "balanced" there is not a lot of stress placed on the building structure, and you do not need a large concrete base to support the load. (one sq ft of concrete below each column is ample in most cases.) The one ton trolley costs about a hundred dollars.

You can build this sort of crane into an existing building by placing the structure inside the existing walls. If you connect a jib crane to an existing column that was designed only to carry a roof and wall, you will likely be overloading it and it could be very dangerous.






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 Looking for an ideas for a crane hoist in barn

I have 30' wide metal pole barn that I want to install a I-beam trolley system in. What size I-beam did you use? Where did you get length over 20'? All I've seen stock is 20'.
Thanks for any help






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