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 11-06-2007, 19:22 Post: 147874
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I am thinking about buying one of these dozers. Are the new ones more reliable? Do you still hear of bell-housing bolt problems, blown gaskets and leaking seals on low-hour tractors?






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 11-06-2007, 19:33 Post: 147875
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Postman907,

Not sure what you're referring to here. If you attempted to post a picture, it didn't go through.

Please explain further.

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 11-06-2007, 21:03 Post: 147879
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Wow! I just looked at my posting and I understand why you didn't know what I was talking about... Sorry! I'm talking about the NorTrac dozers that Northern Tool is selling. Has the quality improved over the years or is it still kind of a risky investment?






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 11-06-2007, 21:44 Post: 147880
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Postman907,

I'm a big fan of Northern Tool. I've purchased a whole number of items from them, and always had good luck with their tools, pumps, etc.

I've considered buying some of their tractor implements, but the closest store is more than 200 miles from me. Tractor Supply is much closer, at 40 miles.

Now maybe I'm wrong, but if the tractors being sold by Northern Tool were causing all kinds of trouble for them, I believe they'd drop the line. Instead, Northern Tool continues to expand the tractor business.

From my own point of view, I can purchase a used D3 Cat for about the same money, and I can always sell the Cat when I'm done using it. Selling a used NorTrac might not be as easy.

Click on the following link. See lot Numbers 536 and 537.

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 11-06-2007, 22:03 Post: 147881
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I've had mixed experience with Northern Tools and usually buy from them only as a last resort. That said, if you're comfortable doing your own mechanical work on this type of machine you could probably do fine. With Northern backing it at least parts are probably available. If you're not, well, something with local dealer backing would probably be more satisfactory. If you've got a business riding on the equipment you'd probably be better off with a major brand. Nothing worse than losing money while equipment is down waiting for parts and repairs.






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 11-06-2007, 22:41 Post: 147883
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I'm a big Northern Tool fan. I also believe in you get what you pay for. Saying that, what is the price of any Nortrac machine compared to a similar HP machine of any other brand? About 50% to 30% less? The way it was explained to me by the guy who owns Ag-King tractors is this: Nortrac is a company name that Norhtern tools calls it's tractor line. Northern buys these tractor from Jinma (China), and Jinma ships them over here in crates, with decals that Northern has ordered to say "Nortrac." Ag-King does the exact same thing. I have taken a pretty good look at a few of these models, and I even considered one, briefly. (However, Jinma does not make a HST model, and that is a deal breaker for me.)

As for service- I think that will depend on your local store and manager. Northern in general sells a full range of stuff, from top of the line to the worst this planet has to offer. Based on the price of the Nortrac, it's not the best tractor made- however, maybe it's good enough for what you need to do. Heres a good example: Northern Tools sells a few different models of parts cleaners. I bought the cheapest one they had- why? Because I am not a professional mechanic. The cleaner I bought works for me when I need it, but if I was running a garage, I might have chosen a better model.






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 11-07-2007, 07:47 Post: 147894
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Klienchris makes good sense. I have only been on two Northern Tool stores and they did not have any sort of repair shop there that I saw. Then neither does Tractor Supply or any other such chain that I have been into.

If they have a good shop that does the work it might be good. At any rate I do not believe the person who buys from Lowes or Home Depot and than carries the lawn mower or saw to the local what ever brand shop it is gets the same level of service as the person who bought from that shop. No doubt some will tell me I am totally wrong, but there are too many other variables than just doing the exact work. kt






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 11-07-2007, 13:10 Post: 147923
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Well, can anyone recommend a good compact (Chinese/Korean) dozer that is supported in the U.S. but that doesn't cost an arm and a leg? I'm looking for something about the size of a D2.

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Postman, the issue is am I better off with a new tractor of this brand or a used one of a major brand it seems. With either repairs are to a point unknown. You may wish to look at used and if so would suggest the link below. It list many machines and you can search it about it way you wish by brand, location and so forth. My experience is many of those listings are Companies and not individuals such as with ebay. Again, based upon my limited experience expect some price flexing but not a lot. kt






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My Caterpillar book says they weigh about 7000-7500 lb.
And were built between 1947 and '58.

Why don't you buy a bobcat with steel tracks (I can hook you up with them for around a grand)?

With tracks they're almost like a dozer, and much much more versatile. And if you have to cross driveways you can remove the steel tracks and have use of the tires.

There aren't many attchements for dozers, but bobcats have over 200 and increasing daily.






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