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 06-06-2000, 11:42 Post: 16948
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 Side or Read Discharge R4 or Turf Mowing Time Price

I am looking at the TC29D to replace my current 46" cut mower. I have 3 acres which I try to keep nicely mowed. I was wondering how long it might take mow with a 60" or 72" on a TC29D? I also haven't been able to decide on the side or read discharge mid mount mower. Any comments to help my decision? I was thinking of going with the 60" version which would allow more manuverability. My land is mostly level and the hills are very gentle in rise.I also had a concern with the R4 tires. I was thinking of going with the turf tires to ensure the least amount of damage to my lawn. I also thought that I would not be using to tractor for really serious loader work, (the level of industrial), but more for moving mulch, snow, gravel for patios, light digging for patios, etc. If the R4's will allow me to do more serious work if it comes up, but I really want to ensure I don't get tire marks all over my lawn. Any comments to help my decision here?Any comments of calcium chloride solution for weighting the tires? Alternatives?I am getting prices of about $20k for a TC29D FWD with supersteer and 7308 loader with 60" bucket and a 914a 60" side discharge mid mount mower. About $180 for clacium chloride in the tires. IS this a good deal?Thanks for any input,






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 06-06-2000, 17:31 Post: 16958
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 Side or Read Discharge R4 or Turf Mowing Time Price

Mark, I have heard (don't know for sure) that a couple of years ago, everyone wanted the right discharge mowers and the dealers couldn't hardly sell the rear discharge, and that now that has been reversed. I bought a new Bush Hog 60" rear discharge mower last August (to use on a B2710 instead of mowing with the 38" Cub Cadet I had) and it's great (just finished mowing the yard, in fact). The rear discharge doesn't throw the grass as far and doesn't make as much of a windrow as a right discharge. So for me personally, I'd say right discharge IF you want to use a grass catcher; otherwise, rear discharge. And the turf tires are best for your lawn, Ag tires for traction, and R4s are a good compromise for everything. Just my personal opinion, of course.






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 06-06-2000, 18:48 Post: 16961
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 Side or Read Discharge R4 or Turf Mowing Time Price

Forget about the calcium chloride solution. It will eventually rust your wheels. I think most tire dealers now use a water/anti-freeze solution but the best would be to get the tires foam filled. That not only adds the weight but also makes the tires flat proof.






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 06-06-2000, 21:17 Post: 16968
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 Side or Read Discharge R4 or Turf Mowing Time Price

I just paid $16500 for a TC33D S.S. w/7308 loader, R4's, block heater, & fancy seat/lights which was also as good a price that I was quoted for a TC29D. The dealer wanted $2100 for the 60" mid mower, but I believe that I am going for a pull behind mower when I need one. I did not load the tires with liquid ballast which would help with the loader, but would be detrimental for mowing especially if you get R4 tires. It sounds like the mowing is your main concern & if you are using the loader on or around the turf, then turf tires may be the best match for your situation. You should come up with some counter weight when using the loader like wheel weights or a 3pt implement. I don't have alot of experience, but that's these are some things that I have learned recently.






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 06-06-2000, 21:18 Post: 16969
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 Side or Read Discharge R4 or Turf Mowing Time Price

I just paid $16500 for a TC33D S.S. w/7308 loader, R4's, block heater, & fancy seat/lights which was also as good a price that I was quoted for a TC29D. The dealer wanted $2100 for the 60" mid mower, but I believe that I am going for a pull behind mower when I need one. I did not load the tires with liquid ballast which would help with the loader, but would be detrimental for mowing especially if you get R4 tires. It sounds like the mowing is your main concern & if you are using the loader on or around the turf, then turf tires may be the best match for your situation. You should come up with some counter weight when using the loader like wheel weights or a 3pt implement. I don't have alot of experience, but that's these are some things that I have learned recently.






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 06-06-2000, 22:02 Post: 16971
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 Side or Read Discharge R4 or Turf Mowing Time Price

Mark,
I mow 5 acres on a TC29D with a NH914A 60" Mid-Mount side discharge finish mower. I run about 4.5 hours to complete the whole yard. Diesel fuel consumption is about 4.3 Gal. (2500 RPM continuously) I had been running (for 15 years) a Bolens 19 HP HST with a 60" mid-mount side discharge deck. That machine took me about 6.5 to 7 hrs with near 14 Gal. gasoline. What a difference!






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 06-07-2000, 04:20 Post: 16973
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I just recently received my Kubota 2910 with 72 inch mid-mount mower deck and R4 tires. A large part of my decision to go with the Kubota was because of its weight - it's 700 pounds or so lighter than the TC29/TC33 and the tractor was going to be on the lawn once a week mowing and I didn't want to run the risk of doing a lot of damage to it.

I chose the R4 tires as they seemed to be the most versatile choice for doing both mower and loader work. As far as any damage to the lawn I mowed last week after a day of dry weather (it had been raining off and on for about a week) and the only damage I did was when turning very sharply (don't do this) and I don't know that turf tires will eliminate this effect completely either. I did get a loaner 2150 from the dealer with turf tires on it for a week before I got my 2910, so I got a chance to see them in action also. Turf tires are definitely easier on your lawn than R4's, but you will sacrifice some traction elsewhere, as well as some sidewall rigidity when doing loader work. The turfs also give a bouncier ride IMO but are definitely the way to go if you're going to be working on turf most of the time.

I also debated at length about the 60 inch versus the 72 inch deck for the very reason you mentioned - manuverability. My final choice was to get the bigger deck as my intention was to reduce my mowing time as much as possible. I am glad I got the bigger deck although if you have a lot of obstacles to mow around and/or between, you might consider the smaller deck. I cut my mowing time from 3 plus hours with a 42 inch deck to less than 1 hour with the new tractor!






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 06-08-2000, 23:47 Post: 17052
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 Side or Read Discharge R4 or Turf Mowing Time Price

I didn't measure them but when I was looking at all the different brands, I thought the Boomers had the best looking turf tires. They appeared to have longer knobs than the others. May just be my imagination. I have a JD 4300 with R4s and I tried it across my yard over the weekend after about a 2" rain and when I turned sharp it tore the turf pretty badly. I have the new axle so that was not the problem. I did have the FEL on the tractor. As long as I was going stright the R4s were fine. They didn't cause any noticeable soil compaction. The JD4300 outweighs the TC29D by about 400 lbs.






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