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 10-03-2003, 23:43 Post: 65505
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Hello everyone,
I posted a similar mess. on the Kubota site. I wanted to say hello to everyone, I'm a new member. I've been reading for awhile and just signed up. I'm in the market for a New tractor and believe I have narrowed it down to Blue or Orange. Any good reasons for one over the other? Any common problems with either one? Looking at about 40 hp, 4X4, no cab, R4's. Also leaning toward a Hydro. Any help would be most appreciated. Thanks.






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 10-04-2003, 00:10 Post: 65506
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First of all, welcome to the forum! There's lots of good folks here who are helpful and enjoy talking about tractors (and other stuff).

It would be helpful to know what you plan to do with the tractor. Bushhogging? Lawn mowing? Loader work? Snow blowing, plowing, gravel driveway maintenance, skidding logs, etc. Knowing what your needs are will help hone the feedback. Personally, I'm a fan of sizing the implements first then picking a tractor that is best suited to run them. What type of terrain is your property on? What type of soil? That has a bearing on tire selection.

The strong suit of GST is that it doesn't take any power away from the rear PTO and is a little stronger for long hours doing field work. I have a hydro transmission and really like it for loader work and ease of operation. It is worth the loss of a couple of PTO horsepower for me. If anyone else in your family will use the tractor ease of use may be an important consideration. Generally hydros are better for resale as well as being a little easier and safer on hills (no shifting). Both are very reliable.

Both Orange and Blue are good machines. It is important for you to drive both and get a feel for them. Some tractors fit better than others. A persons height, girth, arm and leg length have a bearing on how comfortable it is. The tractors have different pedal arrangements and you may prefer one over the other. Dealer support is very important too. If you encounter a bad dealer the brand is unimportant.






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 10-04-2003, 07:42 Post: 65521
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kwschumm, Thanks for the welcome and for your response. I have small acreage and will be doing alot of landscape work at first, tree planting, loader work, fence posts, etc, etc. Will need FEL, heavy box blade, fork lift attachment, rototiller, post hole digger, etc. Maybe a backhoe attach at some point. Land is on gental slope now but plan to move up to larger property and build a house and hobby farming later and unknown what new prop will look like.

I agree with the local dealer concept as well. Trouble is, is where I live there is one dealer that carries both brands but is not someone I would want to do business with and price is to high. I will probably be buying out of the area. The prices I have been given in the local area are all way over prices from other areas. I see it like this; if all the dealers are paying the same or about the same for a tractor, then someone else (much better cost and attitude) will get my business every time. I don't mind paying more if I get good service and customer care. This is something I know and care a lot about. Thank you again.






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 10-04-2003, 07:54 Post: 65524
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There are still some openings here, the forklift, do you need to remove or load from a flat bed and how much weight? Ken, on the hydro, if it is pto work, the hydro's will out perform a gear any time even with the horsepower loss from running the extra pump and the looseness of the drive. The flexibility of the speed is what will boost the productivity of the unit. Small acreage in NY might be ten acres, in Texas it might be 100, can you be a little more specific. The Blue line does have some nice comfort to it as well as the orange, there are some areas that make some differences in longevity if they would apply to your uses between them. It is only right that the tractor be comfortalble to those concerned. It is much like a beatiful pair of shoes that doesn't fit.






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 10-04-2003, 08:11 Post: 65525
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Art, Thanks for your response as well. The reason for the pallet forks is I would like to unload pallets of stone, brick or what have you from trailer or lumber off of truck etc. Would like to move like items around prop with fork lift attachment. Acreage now is just a couple of acres but have a lot of work to do and plan to move to larger prop after this prop is all done. Eventually semi-retire to larger prop out of the area.






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 10-04-2003, 08:47 Post: 65530
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Radio1, you are not welcome here. Go home. Naw, just kidding. I'm new here too, and the folks are great. I have blue, a little TC29, and it's a real little pit bull. I just traded up on a TC35, and nearly bought the TC40. They are nearly identical except 3 cyl v 4 cyl. Heard great things about orange, but my blue experience has been great. Good luck with your decision!






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bobad1, Thank you as well. Nice to be a new member. Is yours a hydro or gear? I'm thinking around 40 hp give or take because I hate to under buy and then wish I'd have bought bigger. At the same token I don't want to over kill either. I need a FEL large enough to lift heavy items with fork lift attach and move rocks/boulders around. Move a lot of dirt etc. I might also want to put a backhoe attachment on the tractor. Thanks






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Radio1, You need to have a good sit down with your dealer, or research on the Web. If you search diligently for comparison tables, you can find the FEL that has the kind of size and power you need. FELs are often misused. They are not for digging...






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...but for scooping. Use a plow to bust the dirt, then scoop it. They can move lots of dirt quickly if you do not have to haul it far. A backhoe is more appropriate for grubbing rocks. Watch out, some larger capacity FEL have the same hydraulic cylinders, and lift is no greater than the smaller FEL...






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I have gears on my TC29, and gears on my new TC35 coming next week. Besides the initial cost, HST is a little fincky and very expensive to replace. They are great for FEL work, but have no advantage for mowing or plowing. In fact, they cost you HP you always need for mowing. Good luck.






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